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McHale "(Lin) rather have 29pts and 9 TOs, I tell him 'we wanna win'""

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lucky Charm, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    Yea Jeremy deff. needs to shoot more, I think everyone would agree.
     
  2. ColdspringX

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    Not a big Lin fan at all, but I find this comment atrocious.

    First off, he's literally implying Lin places his own stats above team's winning, which is absolutely not the case, Lin has quite a few flaws I don't like as pg, but being selfish is not one of them, Lin's a as classy nba player as you can get these days.

    Secondly, the comment is wrong in many levels even if he did that with good intention, Lin can change his style to suit Harden's need, not to suite a coach 's system, specially not a small time coach like McHail' s system, who I highly suspect will be here in the next 2 seasons.
     
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    Wow....we are on a completely different wave length. What I meant was he didn't want to call Lin out the first time around and was being politically correct but this time he didn't pull any punches. Now do me a favor and watch his post game interview after the thunder game, tells you a lot what McHale thinks of Lin.
     
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  6. durvasa

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    "Literally implying". ... Good grief. What he "literally" said is that Lin sometimes prefers to play in a way that runs counter to what McHale believes wins games. That is NOT the same thing as what you're saying he's "literally" implying.
     
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  7. BleedRed

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    Lol even I wouldn't say Lin needs to shoot more. He definitely needs some pick and roll action though, more quality shots and less quantity. I much rather Lin get his shots via pnr then wide open 3s. Not his strength.
     
  8. BleedRed

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    He said rather score. Don't put words in McHales mouth to make your point. If he comes out and says I misspoke, fine. Until then, he is a grown up man who can articulate what he is trying to convey.
     
  9. sammsung987

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    Lin does not fit mchales system. Lin is not trying hard enough to fit in and that pissed off mchale enough to say that. Case closed.
     
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  10. wapz

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    mchale is simply adding drama that comes with betrayal and the suspense of what's to come in the future etc to lin's underdog story

    by now, i betcha chandler is comforting lin telling him to not give up and always reach for his goals, and climb higher towards the light and be free like an american bald eagle serving as an epitome of liberty and justice!

    *play song: God Bless the USA*
     
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    mcfail tried to make lin a spot up shooter and he said lin needs to play more aggressively and look for his own shots more. and now this bs. what's next huh mcfail?
     
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  12. SuperStar

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    But he's posting a lot more so therefore he's winning the argument.
     
  13. durvasa

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    I'm substituting "play a certain way" for "score x points with y turnovers". That doesn't change the meaning and it's consistent with his previous quote (the one you insisted was basically the same message).

    You, however, are adding that he said Lin cares more about scoring then winning. That is flatly NOT what he said. That's putting words in his mouth to fit your narrative.

    Someone could accuse Kobe of trying to do too much in terms of forcing shots at times, to where its not conducive to winning. It doesn't follow that the accusation is Kobe doesn't care about winning.
     
  14. hmc317

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    here are some interesting stats on Lin :)

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    As you can plainly see, an aggressive Lin is ten times better for the team, than a passive Lin. When Lin is looking to create for teammates, and for himself, we win alot more games. But for some reason this year, he has been waaaaay too passive for my liking.

    And it is not on Mchale, its on Jeremy!! Mchale might not be the best coach at drawing up X's and O's, but he is pretty much running a Dantoni lite offense, preaching ball movement, Jeremy should be thriving in this system, yet many times seems so passive.

    And it is not on Harden either, its on Jeremy again!! When Lin was in New York, there were many times he would put the team ahead of a ball dominant player, he as the pg ran the show, and wasn't afraid to tell Melo no. James is good guy, who played with two great ball dominate players in Durant and Westbrook, he knows how to share the ball and be successful, yet Jeremy himself defers too much to him. I don't know what happened to that confident, played with a chip on his shoulder Jeremy from New York.

    TLDR: Lin needs to man up and play aggressive, and not be afraid to make mistakes, as long as he is shooting and trying to create, it puts pressure on the defense, even if he is bricking it up and turning it over.
     
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    Don't confuse correlation with causation.
     
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    Jeremy avgs 10 shots a game. If anything he needs to shoot more. There is a reason why McFail's teams usually do very poorly since he became a coach or GM.
     
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    I was hoping this thread would die but it won't so I'd just like to say . . . McHale clearly wasn't saying anything bad about Lin. It's been demonstrated countless times by rational people in this thread. Everyone who is mad at McHale for what he said about Lin has been clearly and utterly defeated, and this thread is now over.

    If LOF's had real heart, they would have stretched this thread to 200 pages by now, but no, they couldn't make it. Shows you how much they "care" :cool:
     
  18. jeddah

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    This is what makes this forum unbearable for us Lin fans...anything we say in respect to Lin will always be negated as over-rxn...ANYTHING...
     
  19. cytrynowa

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    And anything anyone else says is because they're "Lin haters" or "biased" or "McHale apologists."

    Look in the mirror sometime.
     
  20. borednsleepy

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    crazy thread, why is there always a Lin vs Rockets argument?
     

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