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Josh Smith, Houston's Gamble

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Vpballa916, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Vpballa916

    Vpballa916 Member

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    Love already got the max, and he's been stinking it up since.

    This is a results league, baby. Love's got the numbers, but they're empty.
     
  2. gmoney411

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    Because the Rockets always have the option of not tying up all their money in Smith and rolling with the rookies for the next two years until Love and LMA are free agents. Plus the Wolves have shown that they aren't fully committed to Love so there is always the possibility of a trade.
     
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    Love got results when he had actually had a good teammate. Go take a look at what prime KG was able to accomplish with a scrub roster around him.
     
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    loves rebound numbers will drop is a given many here ignore when on floor with Asik. We need DEFENSE which Love is horrible at. We already got harden scared to D up, we dont need 2 starters afraid to catch a foul
     
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    Everything will be just fine. Morey is doing the driving. Everybody take a Xanax and wait until Morey pulls another hard left.
     
  6. Vpballa916

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    Love is a Diva, and he's going to get moved by the end of this season or sometime during the next.

    He signed a 4 year deal with the ability to opt out after the 3rd.

    He is currently in his second season, i think Minnesota is going to allow Kevin to inflate his numbers a bit more once he comes back from injury to boost his value, then trade him.
     
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    I don't think the Rockets would do that. By the time Love can opt out of his contracts, Lin and Asik's contracts will be over. We should try to win now.

    I'd be happy with going after Al Jefferson, Jose Calderon, Nick Young, and Jermaine O'Neal.
     
  8. Vpballa916

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    Phoenix had its chance, they either just lost, or they were robbed(Robert's Horry hip check of Steve Nash)

    Even if what you say is true, Jefferson is not the player you want. Do you honestly believe that he is the missing piece that'll vault this team into a title contender?

    Josh Smith makes this team better than Al Jefferson could.

    Now if we're talking Lamarcus Aldridge or Kevin Love, and they decided to slow the game down, you might have something, but Al Jefferson?

    NO
     
  9. gmoney411

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    We probably aren't going to win now with or without Josh Smith. This team is likely two years away from competing unless we add Howard this offseason. People talk as if we don't have 3 high upside PFs on our roster right now at a much cheaper price. Tying up near max level money in a guy that has never been an all star doesn't make a lot of sense imo.
     
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    you could say this about a lot of players.

    Love stretches the floor, rebounds at a prodigious rate.


    and....?
     
  11. Vpballa916

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    Josh Smith produces at an all-star level. And the only reason i made this thread was because i felt that this is a special circumstance, considering how Houston plays.

    There is no other player that would fit better in this system, with our personnel, than Josh Smith.

    a High flying, big athletic wing who can attack the rim, corral loose balls, defend the perimeter and the interior.
     
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    Yep. They didn't win. The last time an up-tempo system won was the Showtime Lakers and maybe last year's Heat. But we don't have a prime Magic Johnson or Lebron James.

    We need more than 1 piece. And I've already explained why Jefferson would be a better fit for us. He improves our offense more than Smith would, and since he can play center, he would allow us to develop Dmo/Trob.

    By acquiring Smith, we'd be sacrificing either Dmo or Trob.
     
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    I'm not sure what more you are looking for because we already know Love isn't a great defender. Love is better on the boards and on the offensive end than Smith. Love also has a more well rounded offensive game than Smith. Yes Smith is a superior defender but Love has him beat in 2 of 3 of the most important things you want from your PF. There is a reason that Smith has never made an all star game nor has he ever been considered for an Olympic team.

    Also, I'm not sure why you keep referring to Love as a diva when we all know that Smith isn't the smartest player around. As far as personality goes it is a draw at best
     
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    This is just flat out wrong. I keep saying it, and you keep ignoring it. We already have 2 young PF's that we plan on developing. If we get Smith, we'd play him maybe 35 mpg.

    Where does that leave Dmo/Trob?
     
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    He does not improve anything, he just gives the team another way of scoring, which is counter intuitive to how they play. Houston's strength is their speed and their shooting. You add a non-elite level ball stopper to the mix, and that muddles everything down.

    As i said before, build around your superstar, don't take away from him. And if you are going to go this route, the interior presence had better be an elite player, and not a specialist(which is what Al Jefferson is).

    Josh Smith doesn't take away from anything that Harden does well. He only makes life easier by guarding wings and protecting the paint while grabbing loose balls. He slithers through the seams and doesn't get in the way of Harden's game.
     
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    they wouldn't be sacrificed at all, Josh Smith would be a signing, not a trade. Those guys would still be on the roster.

    Besides, Houston is trying to win now, they're not in the business of building their rookies up. The rookies will grow in a winning culture, that's the most important thing.
     
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    you are overestimating those guys. Develop them off the bench. THEY ARE ROTATION GUYS.

    you make it sound like they are the next superstars, waiting in the wings.

    "This is just flat out wrong."

    yes, you are.
     
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    TRob has the potential to be a Josh Smith caliber player. You are greatly overestimating how good of a player Smith is.
     
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    Al Jefferson would give the Rockets a low-post scoring threat which would improve their offense. You can't sincerely argue otherwise.

    And what you fail to realize is that if the Rockets did acquire a low-post threat, they would utilize him....even if it meant that it would slow down our pace.

    Look at it this way. We have been consistently trying to get Dwight Howard. Had we succeeded, do you really think that we would deny him touches in the post? Of course not.
     
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    Yeah, that's my point. They'd be on the roster. Josh Smith would be getting 35mpg at PF. Where does that leave Dmo/Trob?

    And in case you weren't aware, Dmo and Trob are both PF's.
     

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