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Rockets officially sign Tim Ohlbrecht

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 25, 2013.

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Rocket_Man_2.0 said: ↑

Where does Morey find these guys...it's like the rockets have 3 extra draft selections.!!
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TRUE!

#81 Ultramagnus, Feb 25, 2013

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Wow you gotta respect this guy. Giving up guaranteed money in Europe to go to the Dleague on a prayer to get a shot with an NBA team? Hard work and determination paying off. I'm instantly an Ohlbrecht fan. Wish we had this contract done before the Wiz game. We could have used him Sat. night.

#82 Aruba77, Feb 25, 2013
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Morey continues to make this team even more attractive to Dwight Howard...

#83 ThatBoyNick, Feb 25, 2013
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they just signed him cause Celtics wanted him.lol good cheap 3 year. hope he becomes reliable like a Carl landry type off the bench, or even dalembert

#84 ejarts, Feb 25, 2013
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a big shot blocking high flying 7footer that can backup Asik. = win win win

#85 teebone21, Feb 25, 2013
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Gimmmethemike said: ↑

Oshik, Dmo now Tim.. 3 tall White boys on the front line
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To better guard the paint for the rest of our smaller Black boys.

#86 Uprising, Feb 25, 2013
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What I'm surprised that nobody has pointed out is this: Greg Smith has a team option for 2013-14 (that will surely be exercised by the Rockets), but not for 2014-15. Tim Ohlbrecht has team options for both 2013-14 and 2014-15. Therefore, if Ohlbrecht is able to demonstrate to the organization that he is comparable to Smith, this means that a) he is more valuable to the organization than Smith and b) Smith thus becomes expendable during the offseason. If Ohlbrecht demonstrates that he can be a solid backup C for the Rockets, the Rockets will for sure exercise the team option for 2013-14. As I have pointed out repeatedly, if you can get a solid rotation guy for less than $1 mil, that is a major bargain.

Those of us who have been following the NBA for a number of years understand that teams can and do blow a lot of money on backup Cs; teams blow a lot of money on backups, in general (which always amazes me), but especially on backup Cs. Take a look at how much money DeSagana Diop has made over the past several years, and recognize that he was paid to be a backup C (!). This means that Greg Smith has value as a trade commodity. If Ohlbrecht demonstrates that he is comparable to Smith (and can therefore take over the backup C minutes at some point between now and the beginning of the 2013-14 regular season), I'd look for Darryl Morey to try to flip Smith for a second round pick prior to the beginning of the 2013-14 regular season (probably during June/July 2013), so as to a) save a bit of money, b) accumulate yet another draft pick, and c) create an open roster spot. Ideally, Morey will make this trade with a poorly managed organization, since such organizations tend to finish with lousy W-L records, which means that the second round picks are relatively high second round picks. This is why Phoenix was an ideal trade partner in the Marcus Morris trade (the Suns have devolved into one of the league's most poorly managed franchises), which means that pick will likely be in the 31-40 range. A second round pick from, say, San Antonio or Miami or another 50+ win team isn't worth much.

Another thing worth pointing out that I don't think I've seen pointed out is this: Morey isn't crazy about letting valuable assets rot at the end of the bench or in the developmental league indefinitely. The whole point of drafting and developing players is to ultimately either a) play them (duh!) or b) trade them somehow, either in a quantity-for-quality trade (i.e., two or more lesser players for one player who is the best player in the trade and who makes your team better) or for a draft pick. This is why I expect Morey to attempt to flip Smith for something of value this summer. This is also why I expect Morey to flip Terrence Jones for something of value this summer (as it doesn't appear that there's going to be a spot in the rotation opening up for Jones anytime soon). Ideally, Morey packages two or more of his expendable players for somebody good (i.e., better than any of the players he's traded); if that doesn't work, he trades these expendable players for draft picks, and starts the process over anew.

When I used to play fantasy sports, I kept making the same play over and over and over again. I'd try to trade two if not three players (who I didn't really want all that much) for one guy who was good (who I did want). This would create one if not two open roster spots, which I would use to pick up undervalued free agents, and I would start the process all over again. I'd keep doing this until I had a juggernaut lineup. This is what Morey does, only in real life!
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Great post!

#87 mike_lu, Feb 25, 2013

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I wouldn't consider Tim Ohlbrecht high flying IMO. I dont think he is good enough for anyone to get excited about. I like Greg Smith at Back Up (wish he would work out his fouling problem).

#88 tenit86, Feb 25, 2013
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Ohlbrecht impressed me in the D-League all star game. Granted it was just an ASG, but I came away thinking he would have a shot at sticking in the NBA.
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Was it an ASG ala the NBA where they just put on a show for fun (mostly theirs) or one where the guys were trying to prove their value to the big teams (NBA)?

#89 xiki, Feb 25, 2013
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I have hard time pronuncing his name.

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rogower said: ↑

What I'm surprised that nobody has pointed out is this: Greg Smith has a team option for 2013-14 (that will surely be exercised by the Rockets), but not for 2014-15. Tim Ohlbrecht has team options for both 2013-14 and 2014-15. Therefore, if Ohlbrecht is able to demonstrate to the organization that he is comparable to Smith, this means that a) he is more valuable to the organization than Smith and b) Smith thus becomes expendable during the offseason. If Ohlbrecht demonstrates that he can be a solid backup C for the Rockets, the Rockets will for sure exercise the team option for 2013-14. As I have pointed out repeatedly, if you can get a solid rotation guy for less than $1 mil, that is a major bargain.

Those of us who have been following the NBA for a number of years understand that teams can and do blow a lot of money on backup Cs; teams blow a lot of money on backups, in general (which always amazes me), but especially on backup Cs. Take a look at how much money DeSagana Diop has made over the past several years, and recognize that he was paid to be a backup C (!). This means that Greg Smith has value as a trade commodity. If Ohlbrecht demonstrates that he is comparable to Smith (and can therefore take over the backup C minutes at some point between now and the beginning of the 2013-14 regular season), I'd look for Darryl Morey to try to flip Smith for a second round pick prior to the beginning of the 2013-14 regular season (probably during June/July 2013), so as to a) save a bit of money, b) accumulate yet another draft pick, and c) create an open roster spot. Ideally, Morey will make this trade with a poorly managed organization, since such organizations tend to finish with lousy W-L records, which means that the second round picks are relatively high second round picks. This is why Phoenix was an ideal trade partner in the Marcus Morris trade (the Suns have devolved into one of the league's most poorly managed franchises), which means that pick will likely be in the 31-40 range. A second round pick from, say, San Antonio or Miami or another 50+ win team isn't worth much.

Another thing worth pointing out that I don't think I've seen pointed out is this: Morey isn't crazy about letting valuable assets rot at the end of the bench or in the developmental league indefinitely. The whole point of drafting and developing players is to ultimately either a) play them (duh!) or b) trade them somehow, either in a quantity-for-quality trade (i.e., two or more lesser players for one player who is the best player in the trade and who makes your team better) or for a draft pick. This is why I expect Morey to attempt to flip Smith for something of value this summer. This is also why I expect Morey to flip Terrence Jones for something of value this summer (as it doesn't appear that there's going to be a spot in the rotation opening up for Jones anytime soon). Ideally, Morey packages two or more of his expendable players for somebody good (i.e., better than any of the players he's traded); if that doesn't work, he trades these expendable players for draft picks, and starts the process over anew.

When I used to play fantasy sports, I kept making the same play over and over and over again. I'd try to trade two if not three players (who I didn't really want all that much) for one guy who was good (who I did want). This would create one if not two open roster spots, which I would use to pick up undervalued free agents, and I would start the process all over again. I'd keep doing this until I had a juggernaut lineup. This is what Morey does, only in real life!
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that's what I do in fantasy football with my friends. I'm in superbowl every year.

#91 ejarts, Feb 25, 2013
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It's about time.

#92 coachbadlee, Feb 25, 2013
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Is Ohlbrecht one of the international players they considered a front loaded contract to or could Anderson be waived for one of those guys?

#93 hooroo, Feb 25, 2013

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Aruba77 said: ↑

Wow you gotta respect this guy. Giving up guaranteed money in Europe to go to the Dleague on a prayer to get a shot with an NBA team? Hard work and determination paying off. I'm instantly an Ohlbrecht fan. Wish we had this contract done before the Wiz game. We could have used him Sat. night.
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This. I remember reading when he turned down the Boston spot for ten days. I looked him up after, and saw he was on the Vipers. I figured if he turned down such an opportunity, and knowing the vipers were essentially Houstons farm team, Morey might have told him and his agent something behind closed doors. Couple days later he gets signed!

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rogower said: ↑

What I'm surprised that nobody has pointed out is this: Greg Smith has a team option for 2013-14 (that will surely be exercised by the Rockets), but not for 2014-15.
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Yes, I have noticed and agree. I think Greg Smith becomes a valuable trade chip (er, asset) on Draft nite or in July.

The UFA market seems realistically limited to Millsap and Jeff, so trading may well be the way DM the GM chooses to move forward.

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good for him. we shall see if he gets any PT tho. which i doubt

#96 acjeitherocket, Feb 25, 2013
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Is Ohlbrecht one of the international players they considered a front loaded contract to or could Anderson be waived for one of those guys?
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Considering he's coming from DLeague, not so much an international player.

I think the front-loading thing applies more to the buyout of their existing European contract etc.

If we waive someone, SURELY HoneyCUTt is first in line??

#97 DrNuegebauer, Feb 25, 2013
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hooroo said: ↑

Is Ohlbrecht one of the international players they considered a front loaded contract to or could Anderson be waived for one of those guys?
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If we are we are waive someone, it would be Honeycutt.

#98 ashleyem, Feb 25, 2013

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I doubt this has anything to do with trading Greg Smith or anyone else in the future. It's just using an open roster spot to look at a cheap prospect with a small chance of panning out. The contract is pretty much HOU's standard for all undrafted FAs coming into the league. For examples, they signed Courtney Fortson to the same kind of contract last season when his 10-days expired.

There really is a very small chance of the guy actually panning out. They just signed him because it costs next to nothing to gamble on such a small chance.

#99 Carl Herrera, Feb 25, 2013
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Cheaper Cole Aldrich.

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