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Josh Smith, Houston's Gamble

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Vpballa916, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Vpballa916

    Vpballa916 Member

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    why? cause he puts up gaudy numbers?

    that diva is Overrated with a capital O.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    His secondary goal is making the playoffs.

    So he's not going to make a move if he thinks it's not a step towards contending.

    Josh Smith is a step BACK for this franchise. Your second max guy needs to be another perennial all-star to be a true contender.
     
  3. Vpballa916

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    Josh Smith is the best option for the foreseeable future. I don't see many 4s, now, or in the future, who can have the defensive impact that Josh has. Houston needs this, it's not a matter of whether he's Harden's equal, it's a matter of what the team needs.

    We need someone to help us defend at an elite level, we don't need another Harden.
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I'd rather take a chance at Aldridge or Kevin Love during next season's trade deadline than signing Smith to a Max contract.
     
  5. Rip Van Rocket

    Rip Van Rocket Contributing Member

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    I don't think the Rockets are in win now mode. I think the trade for Robinson indicates that the Rockets are probably not in win now mode since PPat is probably the better player right now than Robinson will be anytime soon. Morey didn't say anything about having to be a championship contender this summer or next season.
     
  6. Vpballa916

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    you aren't getting it, the fit is perfect. Josh smith may not be a "perrenial all-star" but he produces at an all-star level.

    The man defends, Houston either needs to slow the game down, or find someone at the 4 spot who can slow the opposition down.
     
  7. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    You just ousted yourself in your own quote! LMAO

    Of course we're building towards being a championship contender, just like every other team.

    Like Morey said, we're not there yet.
     
  8. Vpballa916

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    I actually like Aldridge, a lot. He at least has the length to bother some players.

    Kevin Love will never be a good defender. that is my only issue with him.
     
  9. Vpballa916

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    regardless of what happens, this team isn't going to the next level unless it pays someone big.

    Who do you see in the next 1-2 seasons that's a sure-fire fit for this team?
    Josh Smith is a no brainer.

    If we can get him at 12-14 million a year, i say do it.
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    No you don't get it, you need another superstar.

    Another guy that can be relied on every night, another guy that if Harden is not on you can go to and another guy to carry the team.

    Look at all the championships won. They have two perennial all-stars (aka superstars) we need that.

    Not a good fit. Once Morey finds another superstar he can then start worrying about finding ROLES to fill on the team.
     
  11. Vpballa916

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    PPat had already peaked as a player, by the views of many. T-Rob is a long term gamble by Morey.
     
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    Seriously. Someone please watch a T-Wolves game, the man is SERIOUSLY flawed on the defensive end. I really don't see a place for Kevin Love on this team, and I don't know how fans of the Rockets can want him on our team. He is a gifted player who I consider to be a special talent, just not for our group of guys. As the OP has tried to get across, we need another defensive presence down low besides Asik that can fit in with our offense as well. I'm not saying that Josh Smith is the guy, but I'm definitely saying that Kevin Love ISN'T the guy.
     
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    I'm not opposed to signing smith in the offseason. He's a great player. Just don't think that our contender status depends on signing him. Agreed he'd accelerate that process. The question is whether his cap number would limit how far along we can get in that process. He's not an end point in and of himself.
     
  14. Vpballa916

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    who do you have in mind? what's the next best option? what's the perfect fit? That player might not ever come, but at least do something.

    We have a superstar in Harden. He is one of the best 6-7 players this season. We need an all-star caliber player to pair with Harden. Josh Smith produces at an all-star caliber level, even if he isn't recognized for it.
     
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    So the TRob experiment is over before it started? Dang I didn't even get to see him play!
     
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    i dont think josh smith is that great of a defender. i think people are just enamored by his blocking numbers, which to a lesser extent, is similar to steals stats in that you cant call someone a great defender based on how many steals they average. basically, josh smith is to blocks as allen iverson was to steals. people dont consider iverson a great defender.he could improve pick and roll defense but i still see him getting backed down or bullied by the bigger power forwards out there.

    id be down to get smith at the right price. you cant deny his production so far in his career.
     
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    You don't throw money at an anybody just because there is no one worthwhile sigining in free agency.

    That's how you end up like the Pistons with Charlie Villanueva and Ben Gordon making outlandish money for minimal production.

    If we get him at 12-14 mill a year I still say don't do it. And this is coming from a guy that actually likes J-Smoove.
     
  18. Vpballa916

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    Josh Smith and Kevin Love are similar in that they both possess unique skill-sets.

    Love stretches the floor and rebounds at prodigious levels.
    Josh Smith defends, blocks shots, and can play above the rim, at a high level.
     
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    His price tag is outragous..A bunch of talent coming into free agency..I say pull a 2 for 1 deal...2 quality role guys using roughly 20 mil..Because if Houston pays...lets say a J Smith for what he wants..and he gets injured.That will so NOT be cool..What I'm trying to say is Josh Smith is NOT F%$king worth a max deal..
     
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    The Rockets have spent close to two years grooming D-Mo. From the draft, to the year in Europe with regular visits from the coaching staff including McHale, to his time in D-League, his promotion to the Rockets roster and then trading everybody ahead of him in the rotation for "assets". He is obviously at this moment the future of the PF spot on the Rockets. T-Rob is the trade asset.

    And I am certainly not the only one on CF to believe the PF spot is all about D-Mo. People generally agree that he has every physical asset needed to be an all-star in the NBA. And he has an attitude to match.

    I have followed D-Mo closely since the Rockets drafted him. Did you know in the earliest draft forecasts he was viewed as a lock for a top 5 position? However, luckily for the Rockets rumors came out regarding his attitude, his motor and his rebounding. I wonder how many of those rumors originated in Morey's offices?

    Anyway, I don't believe that Morey is highlighting the PF spot as a primary need at this moment. Everybody is waiting to see how quickly D-Mo gets an NBA starter's game together. Morey should have an idea by this summer. We shall see.
     
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