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McHale "(Lin) rather have 29pts and 9 TOs, I tell him 'we wanna win'""

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lucky Charm, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Why is this thread even still alive? Oh yeah, that's right the Rockets lost their last game so Lin fans are back out talking about how mistreated he is and how the Rockets need to fire McHale.....way to be predictable.

    Calm down guys, Lin isn't mistreated and the Rockets are still overachieving on the year.
     
  2. durvasa

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    Read Jason Friedman's explanation of the context in which this quote came and all the previous things McHale has said about Lin and answer honestly whether McHale was suggesting that Lin doesn't care about winning.

    I know better than to flip out over an isolated quote without context from a tabloid newspaper. Sorry that makes me "biased".
     
  3. flamingdts

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    It has no face value, it's taken out of context as you said.

    There are two options here.

    Either:

    1) McHale is implying Jeremy Lin is selfish, which is wrong as it is a question of his character.

    2) The quote was taken out of context, which means there is nothing wrong with what McHale said.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    In no way was that quote questioning his "character" if anything it's questioning the decision making of a young PG who turns the ball over 20% of the time he handles it. It's constructive criticism and nothing else. This isn't a big deal.
     
  5. trock

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    LOL. Is this thread still going? It's silly. When you look at what McHale said in this particular quote, as I said before, he's either calling Lin selfish or stupid. Neither seems to be accurate or called for. McHale shouldn't have said it. It's really that simple. It really is.
     
  6. raskol

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    No, it's cuz the blame for losses or object of bias is too often unfairly on Lin. Cuz that's how even the coach seems to feel.
    And how can you see that quote and still say with a straight face that he's being treated so well? What if someone said that about you and you personally felt that points were the farthest thing from your mind as Lin has stated over and over and over again. Would you still feel okay if I told you in a pick up game, no to all your friends and family after a pick up gam,e that you sometimes look like youd rather get 29pts and I have to remind you that we want to win. That would be fine by you? And don't say you would be fine just to illogically argue against anything supportive of Lin cuz that the trend these days.
     
  7. BleedRed

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    There is definitely wrong at face value what he said and unless there are some other facts on why he could mean it in a different context, his comments are what is. Now, if McHale apologists or LOHs want to spin this without any other rationale, they are only losing their credibility. Want another reason to believe why McHale could have meant what he said? Go watch his post game interview after the Thunder game. No credit to Lin whatsoever.
     
  8. SuperStar

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    Probably, but a lot of the stuff he says is sounds reasonable/logical as well.

    To me this is just one quote from an unreliable source. Even if McHale said it, everyone is just interpreting and making conspiracy theories on what they think he meant. People are just making a mountain out of a molehill and if it was any other player he said this to, I don't think we would see anywhere near as many pages.
     
  9. durvasa

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    Its pretty obvious to me that when he says "Sometimes Lin would rather .." he means "Sometimes Lin plays like he'd rather ..." In other words, he at times gets caught up in getting himself going or making a homerun type play and loses sight of his responsibility as a floor leader (which includes valuing possessions and sometimes just making the simple play). That's not a character attack and it doesn't mean he thinks Lin doesn't care about winning. Its a common thing with young PGs with a scoring mentality, and as they get wiser and more mature its something they're expected to improve on.

    I don't get how anyone can actually think McHale views Lin as a selfish, me-first player, when he's so clearly not that. Seriously, use your heads people.

    Should McHale be smarter and less candid in how he expresses things to the media? Yeah.
     
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    And so please explain what does the reference to Lin would rather score 29points add to the above point??? NADA ZERO
     
  11. ERC

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    Can't say I agree. Assuming the quote happened in the context mentioned by Jason Friedman, then your interpretation (in bold) is just that... your interpretation. Not saying it's wrong, but that it's just an interpretation, not a fact.

    Huge fan of Lin myself but I honestly don't understand why some fans think McHale doesn't like Lin or doesn't believe in Lin. He mentioned that he wanted Lin to learn to play off the ball more, to learn to cut without the ball, etc. Personally, I think that helps open up Lin's game. Tony Parker, for example, is an elite PG who often hands off the ball to his bigs (Duncan, Splitter) and cuts to the basket. It's something Lin never did last year in NY, yet he did just that in the final minutes of the OKC game (right before Harden hit the trey to tie the game). Perhaps McHale said he couldn't be happier with Lin because of his improvement and how fast he's learning?
     
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    This is ridiculous; it doesn't matter who's biased and who's not, we all know from the interviews and countless posts on this forum that McHale wants Jeremy to improve his decision making and make quicker, more intelligent and decisive choices about whether to shoot or to pass to an open player, IOW, play within the system the coaches prescribe. But I think most here agree that he is developing and McHale is pleased with his development.
     
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    Wrong, the burden of proof is not on McHale apologists because the source is not credible.

    Did you ever follow the Knicks? NyDailyNews always spins quotes to their liking to cause drama.

    We will never know unless we see the video.
     
  14. raskol

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    Wut??
    Some posters here think that Mchale said what he said within the context of what everyone here is discussing and still thinks its okay... That's what I don't understand. If they said that about you and didn't feel yourself to care about scoring no 29 points, you wouldn't like it either. No??
     
  15. BleedRed

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    come on, caught up in getting himself going rather than acting as a floor leader IS a character attack, even in a PC way that you put in. Not to mention comment implying Lin is not about winning. Btw McHale did not even try to mask his point. If you still thinks McHale is in love with Lin, go watch his post game interview after the Thunder game. I really see a coach who likes his PG there :rolleyes:
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm not going to argue with you guys anymore, but I will say this, this thread is the reason I never wanted Jeremy Lin to be on the Rockets in the first place. I personally think he's a pretty good PG and an important member of the team moving forward, but his fans are beyond intolerable.
     
  17. BleedRed

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    NY Daily as bad as they are, it would be far fetched to make quotes up for no apparent gain. No one in NY cares about Lin/McHale feud. Seriously.
     
  18. Nook

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    NOOOOOOOO MCHALE HATES LIN!

    HARDEN IS A LAZY SLOB!

    SAMPSON HATES LIN!

    LIN DESERVES TO BE THE NEXT POPE!

    .... the above garbage is about as believable as the morons in this thread that want McHale fired and Lin traded.
     
  19. Pak14life

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    Yep. These ppl are wrapped in a delusion. Plus a coach calling his p,are selfish is a big deal and Houston media would've reported it if that's the cae. But it's clear if people drop their preconceived notions that McHale in a raving interview about Lin just pointed out Lin's tendency to be home run happy at time. Wasnt calling him selfish, context matters.
     
  20. Nook

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    Translation: LOF's are biased.....
     

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