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McHale "(Lin) rather have 29pts and 9 TOs, I tell him 'we wanna win'""

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lucky Charm, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. Akim523

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    No, you clearly do not read.

    It was coach telling the media his young PG who takes less shots, averages less TO, leads the team in assists would "sometimes rather have 29 points and 9TO" that he had to remind him "we are trying to win".

    There's no other way to spin it.
     
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  2. pacmania

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    Its interesting to see what statistics morey used to hire him in the first place. They are personal friends, I'll give you that. And Danny Ainge and Larry Bird will surely vote for him as well.
     
  3. shumbum

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    You "verify" if a player is a selfish player by watching them play. LOL As far as I and almost everybody else can tell, Lin is about as unselfish as they come.
     
  4. jeddah

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    This..This is the same thing that irks me with McHale...I have no qualms if he dissects Jlin's game because that is what a coach supposed to do, BUT, to do it ONLY for your starting PG and sometimes on your starting Center and disregarding those other players that are worst than JLin in terms of turnovers are just unacceptable...

    I am not into "Mchale hates Lin" claim by some of my fellow JLin fans but I am slowly seeing their point...a good coach would let his starting PG feel the game in order for him to make good decisions all through-out..you won't benched your starting PG after 6 minutes in the first quarter regardless if he sucks or he is playing good...and you benched him at the start of the 4th quarter when you should have him there on the floor to secure a leverage against the opponents....
     
  5. shumbum

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    McFail has publicly said he wants Lin to play more aggressively even though he has now clearly indicated that Lin is a selfish player who only wants to pack his stats. Nice conundrum there don't you think? McFail wants him to play aggressively but not pack his stats. LOL


    You like this douchebag of a coach??? McFail is a terrible coach...that means he's a crappy coach for EVERY player because he's fokking up the team. If I were more paranoid, I'd almost say McFail has something personal against Lin because he was forced to take him back after recommending to Morey that the Rockets dump Lin the first time around before Linsanity. The LOH here are just too pigheaded to see this and go against the best interests of the team because they have SAS syndrome.
     
  6. jeddah

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    sorry to disagree but I believe that HE did not make this team better..we have good and great players in our team that's why we are overachieving right now..his questionable decisions that leads us to our losses outweighs those that gave us a win...I am not an anti-Mchale fan but I am really hoping that he learns from those mistakes...

    And I've been noticing this quite a while, we really have no definite game plan..and it's getting predictable...

    someone brings the ball at half court
    dump to Harden/Parson's
    Harden/Parson's to initiate a drive
    If the defense will not allow, kick the ball out in the open perimeter
    If someone is open, then shot...

    rinse and repeat..

    why won't they use the PNR..because Asik is not a good picker?, then they should come up with a way in order for Asik to provide a good pick..develop him..that is what should a coach do...not BENCH the only PG you've got that could run a solid offense in case your game plan did not work...

    There are a lot of teams in the NBA right now that would love to have JLin as their PG...You have someone that has a great vision in the open court and great at PNR..why not use his strength instead of relegating him at the corner to spot-up...
     
  7. shumbum

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    Apparently, alot of Lin haters are as stupid as McHale seems to be. Engrish not their first language. LOL
     
  8. Merovingian

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    Either he's joking or McHale is a joke... how could he assume Lin's preference or something exaggerated like that :confused: nine turnovers by his own definition his own counting?
     
  9. Rockets12

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    Ha this thread is great for a good laugh
     
  10. Roxnostalgia

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    Here's what I don't get about people that followed Jeremy to this board. Many are inspired by his ability to overcome adversity such as being overlooked by major college programs, the multiple cuts in the pros, the percieved biases by the media and other players. I'll admit that I find his rise inspirational.

    That said, if Lin has overcome so much, has essentially shaken off naysayers his entire career why do you seem to expect him to be treated with kid gloves now that he's earned his contract, earned his starting spot, and place in the limelight?

    We are talking about Kevin Mchale here. A guy who, despite what you think of him as a coach, is well known for his candor. I respect that about him. His coaching often leaves me scratching my head. Him speaking his mind does not.

    Mchale is the Rockets' coach today. This is his approach. I think Jeremy Lin is tough enough endure Kevin Mchale. His play of late suggests as much.
     
  11. ictaros

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    Ban this idiot. I'm a Rockets fan and I love Lin but to care about how many points a player score regardless of team win/loss is stupid.

    Don't embarrass yourself. Thats the reason why people dislike LOF. You can't see the forest for the trees
     
  12. RocketRaccoon

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    what a questionable thread for a wonderful Houston Rockets team.
     
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  13. Jon_the_poutine

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    This quote was posted by a NY reporter... This is a scam to get Lin traded back to NY or probably the NETS...!!!!
     
  14. King1

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    You're an idiot.
     
  15. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    This.

    It seems Lin's fans hate it that Lin makes mistakes and gets called out on them. If Lin is going to become a great player then this is what he needs to grow. Tough love.
     
  16. real_egal

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    For a quiet guy, McHale certainly could have saved that negative comment on players, especially when it's singling out one player.

    As many mistakes as Lin has made, and as many shortcomings as Lin has, he's a team first, second, and third guy. McHale can manage his players tightly how they should play, as he did to Lin; McHale can be strict on his players and chew them out at sidelines, as he did to Lin. But when it's in cooled down situation, a coach should protect his players instead of singling out young player and question his intentions.

    For those of you claim how that's a page from the Pop's successful coaching book. It's not. Pop is hard on his players, especially Parker. However, that father figure consists of two parts - strict and helpful on how the game should be played the right way, and PROTECTIVE towards the outside world. Pop would say "it's on me", but it's never McHale's mistakes.

    Rockets fans don't need to look far for hard love from a strict coach, as you can all remember how JVG was harsh on Yao when he made mistakes, but meanwhile how protective he was in interviews even when he was commentating on broadcast.

    I am not interested in McHale's intention, and to me, coaches don't even need to like his players. But overly critical on your own young players in front of the outside world, especially on one single player, is not very smart or professional. What exactly did he want to achieve? I'd rather have him to help Lin more during practice and game time, to improve, if McHale can.
     
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  17. DaDakota

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    Look - I have no issue with McHale being hard on Lin, Jeremy needs some tough love.

    But for me, McHale is not consistent, whereas a guy like Popovich will be consistently hard on everyone.

    McHale continues to fail to mention how HORRIBLY Harden plays or rather does not play defense.

    Thus he undermines his own credibility with the team.

    DD
     
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  18. dobro1229

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    So I'm confused. Are LOF's trying to convince me that Lin doesn't make mistakes, and his play is 100% the coaches fault or that he shouldn't be called out for when he does make mistakes? Please oblige me.
     
  19. real_egal

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    You can just play with the straw man you built for yourself:)
     
  20. jeddah

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    Personally, I don't want Lin to be treated with kid gloves because he needs to be tough in this league..in my own understanding of my fellow Lin fans ( because truth be told, I'll follow Lin whatever team he will play with ), we only want a fair treatment for him...if the coach has no problem calling him out publicly for his turnovers for the sake of winning, then he should also be vocal and publicly address the other players who were turning it over in a higher percentage than him...

    it is as if Lin was the reason why Rockets are loosing some games because of his turnovers when most of Lin turnovers was because he is trying to create something for their offense...

    If we will classify turnovers, I will gladly take the turnovers of Jlin because though it is high risk but it has a 50-50 chance of getting them points and the other team to make a point out of it...

    In my honest opinion, I believe McHale didn't agree the acquisition of JLin and Asik that's why there's a shorter lease on the both of them. But since he is stuck to the both of them for 3 years, he really can't do nothing but to play them..notice that McHale doesn't run the PNR so that Asik would develop into a good picker..if he only incorporates some PNR's to their games consistently then Asik will have the ways to develop his game as well as JLin's ability will be utilized..

    Just take for example, Tyson Chandler..he was not a known offensive weapon before but when they run the PNR with Lin he was scoring in double digits...it's not bad when you have a center who is an offensive weapon and can be relied too when our 3's are not falling..
     

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