Major ISPs to institute a 6-strike copyright deterrent plan

AKA ThePirateBay?

 

curious about this too, as I use a vpn. Nothing illegal, just to tap into commissar stern's nba with rockets torrents and indie films oh and shows i'm behind on. I have hbo but it's totally their fault that they don't give marathons so I can catch up on them.

 

Trying to put the mustard back in the bottle.

 

Does this mean fans will finally get to watch the Rockets on tv?

 

I was dl Game Of Thrones like 4 months ago, and I got an email from HBO saying that they knew I DL it, and that it was illegal and not to do it again.

So I thought this **** had already started a while back.

 

Internet is slowly dying as we knew it.

 

Is that how you justify downloading movies and tv shows without paying for them or are you just making an observation?

There are tons of people in hollywood. Most of them don't make billions of dollars.

 

This won't do anything. Good luck to them.

 

Sooo they are telling me I am paying for internet service but I can only use it for what they want me to use it for or what they believe is right, therefor if I dont they will cut my bandwith for which I am paying for??????? How abou No.....

 

So if you set up a proxy will this help you not get caught? I'm sure there has to be a way around this, but I am not Boris grichincho

 

It's not what they think is right. It's the law. That's like saying an apartment complex shouldn't stop you from selling drugs out of your apartment because you paying them to use it. You can substitute selling drugs in that example to anything else that is illegal.

 

Unless you own and not rent, then its just simply illegal and you make your own choice to break the law or not.... But I am not paying for housing I am paying for a service that in this day and age is used to break the law. Is it right or is it wrong to download pirated anything? Both sides are going to have good reasons why and why not but only one is going to make that decision a law.

 

So you think it's ok to break the law because other people are doing it? In general, people used twisted logic in order to justify getting free stuff. The internet has many many more purposes than downloading movies and music illegally.

THERE ARE NO GOOD REASONS TO PIRATE CONTENT. Please explain to me how those justifications could extend to going into best buy and stealing CDs and DVDS. It's wrong. You just really like getting stuff for free.


Look, I am not going to b**** at you or anyone else if you just own it. You're breaking the law, you're stealing, you are hurting below the line employees and crew. Just own it. It's wrong but you would rather do those things and hurt those people than pay for stuff. I will respect you if you just own it. Making up these foolish bits of "logic" so you don't feel bad about yourself is just really weak.

 

Well thank you for passed judgement on what I do and dont do. Because its clear that I have sooo many pirated movies and music in my computer. Thankfully I do not but I cant sit here and tell others right from wrong because every single person that does one thing right does another wrong. I will say It is funny that you believe that a pirated movie or song is hurting "employees and crew". You must not know how media works because it does not work that way.

Times have changed, media is not sold the same way it was. Most artists will post their big new hit on youtube free to listen to as many times as anyone wants without having to "pirate it". They do not post the content to sell albums but to gain popularity.

You make it seem as if there are dying music producers and camera crew members out there. Hollywood studio crew members make alot of money not based on if the movie was good or not they make money for what they were hired to do. Run camera, sound, lights, props, editing, effect, stunts etc.......... Producers get paid right away to produce the content, they do not get payed based on if an album is good or not.

I will say this thou, if you have gone on youtube and watched a video someone made that is not the artist or labels work than you pretty much just enjoyed that content free of charge. Dont be that guy, think on a bigger scale because you pirate too my friend.

 

Let me ask you. If someone cornered you, stuck a gun in your face and robbed you of your valuables, would you say, "Sir, I make no moral judgement on you. Some people rob other people and some don't."

It's perfectly fair to make moral or ethical judgements on an individual. For instance, I can say that someone who attacks another person to take their money is wrong. At any point that you say you can make moral evaluations on a person for anything than it then that principal extends to all actions. How could society function without a system of moral evaluations? How could the justice system work. Again, please tell me you see no problem with someone stealing DVDs or CDs from Best Buy.


Please tell me what expertise you have? I work in the industry. My name is on products you can find on iTunes and at your local Best Buy. I handle music distribution on various music outlets as well. Music Videos are posted on youtube because they drive people to buy the songs on iTunes or google play.

That is NOT how hollywood works. When studios feel a pinch they crack down on projects, salary employees become contract, they cut down on the number of crew they need, they take less risks etc.

Again, please let me know what field you work in.

 

What do you expect? HBO is spending millions producing that series, a multi-year effort that fans of the novels and that series deeply appreciate. They are a subscription service that costs consumers X number of dollars a month, depending on providers and the deals they offer. They don't go to all this trouble to provide you with free content. They do it to make a profit. You have been stealing from them.

 

And what are you? a producer? a label? Do you have a recording studio or are you an artist yourself? You handle music distribution in what way? Do you market the artist or book shows for them? I cant possibly believe that you are producer because you would know that you dont get payed based off the sales of the content but for you work and time put in to a production.

I am college student currently attending classes for different fields of production such as film, special effects ect... I have a home studio and no I am not pushing a tiny m-audio interface on a mac laptop. Believe me when I say I have a studio.

With that said, I think I know a thing or two about music production itself and if I were to record an independent artist's song how I would go about it to make make my money. Its simple, I would make my money. Same goes for someone making a commercial for a business. Someone pays for the creation of the content so I dont see how "crews" suffer from pirating.


So tell me sir, you who is part of the "Industry" how is pirating hurting you? Or maybe it is hurting you but I can almos bet anything it is not hurting your producer or editor.

And walking into best buy and stealing an album is not right. It cannot be justified. It is actual media not digital media. Do you have any pictures on your computer that dont belong to you? Photography you did not take? You know every time you click save as and save into your pictures folder is like walking into a photographers house and taking that work from them as well...

 

Or I watched them and loved it so I subscribed to hbo to watch the next season.....

 

These organizations don't have marginal cost associated with an additional unit, once the sunk cost is in, it's just a pure cash grab, with most of the money going to corporate overhead rather than the talent itself. They make obscene profit margins making (admittedly good TV shows) while companies that produce essential goods have to settle for pennies on the dollar. I have no sympathy for an organizational need to litigate and legislate to death what they cannot innovate away from. There are proper reasons for recourse to governmental legislation, and going from a 33% profit margin to a 40% margin on the back of threatening to sue people who appreciate your work is not one of them.

says something about the legislative priorities of the country when bills like this keep on coming right on through.

 

If I told you I have worked for a field that thrives in fighting patents and "technically" bypassing what could be seen as the equivalent of copyright laws, for the benefit of themselves (and admittedly mankind, somewhat, if only tangential to the goal of self-benefit) would that stop your need to use personal anecdotes?

It's not like music and TV are essential economic goods where societal underinvestment would cause a calamity (in fact, for most music and shows, I would say underinvestment would be optimal). Tons of industries suffer from issues of undercapturing the value they create, and it's not like most of them need to legislate and bully potential consumers to rectify that situation, especially if most earn obscene profit margins anyway.

Resorting to this crap demonstrates a lack of ability to innovate. Period.

I myself do not download off P2P networks, and will not be affected by this. However, I do benefit from music I do not pay for. I will own up to that. Is it wrong? In the purest sense of a society where everyone expects everyone to scratch their back, sure. Will it keep me up during nights? Hell no. There are a LOT of worse things.