Why would the Rockets trade any of their assets to acquire a player they could likely sign as a FA in 3 months?
Teague is probably going to make 8+ mill or so in free agency, and they are pretty much similar players. Teague is also the primary ball handler on that team, so his role would change once he got to Houston.
Morey reached past Dragic to get an inferior and less tested player in Lin. Probably for business reasons. Why wouldd he reverse course now and dump Lin?
Teague has a PER of 16 while Lin has a PER of 15. Teague is inferior to Lin defensively. Its about a wash. You don't change PGs as a lateral move especially for a PG with less upside and marketability and a PG that wants big time money. You especially don't do it to try to get Josh Smith a guy who wants the max. Honestly some of you guys.... Good thing your not gms otherwise you would have rosters filled with overpaid "superstars". We would be the Nets West.
les invested in several chinese companies in private equity type of deals. it is safe to say that without yao's influence, les will have a tough time finding good deals in china. most of the companies he invested in are highly profitable today (remember he invested in them between 2002 - 2007, the property value in china has at least doubled since then, just an example)
Asik and Lin are untouchables, except for a TRUE SUPERSTAR. Parsons sort of is a real untouchable, at least before his 4th year, because under the new CBA with caps coming down, players like him are needed if 3 superstars (say Harden, Dwight and Love) or 2 superstars + 2 quasi-stars (Harden, Love, Lin and Asik) take up most of the cap space.
less tested i agree, inferior is debatable. i wasn't very high on lin's prospect when he was traded but then i didn't think dragic deserve the hype either.
Not to beat a dead horse, but a Teague for Lin trade makes absolutely zero sense from both a basketball and business perspective. (And any opportunity to post stats) They are essentially the same player in terms of stats and both are 24 years old: <PRE> Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 1 Jeremy Lin 2012-13 24 56 56 1839 263 600 .438 54 166 .325 142 181 .785 28 166 194 347 107 23 163 145 722 2 Jeff Teague 2012-13 24 52 52 1732 277 607 .456 58 154 .377 120 138 .870 17 103 120 362 75 17 157 126 732 </PRE><PRE> Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 1 Jeremy Lin 2012-13 24 56 56 1839 5.1 11.7 .438 1.1 3.2 .325 2.8 3.5 .785 0.5 3.2 3.8 6.8 2.1 0.5 3.2 2.8 14.1 2 Jeff Teague 2012-13 24 52 52 1732 5.8 12.6 .456 1.2 3.2 .377 2.5 2.9 .870 0.4 2.1 2.5 7.5 1.6 0.4 3.3 2.6 15.2 </PRE><PRE> Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48 1 Jeremy Lin 2012-13 24 56 1839 15.0 .531 .483 1.7 10.1 6.0 28.8 2.9 1.0 19.3 20.0 105 106 1.9 1.7 3.6 .094 2 Jeff Teague 2012-13 24 52 1732 16.0 .548 .504 1.2 6.8 4.0 34.6 2.3 0.8 19.0 22.2 106 106 2.1 1.7 3.8 .106 </PRE> BUT Teague is a 4th year player and Lin is just in his 3rd. So Lin has one less year of experience and is the same player statically as Teague. Teague is also in line for a MUCH bigger contract than Lin. So yea, at best this is a lateral move that will cost us our max cap space. At worst this is a downgrade that will cost us our max cap space.
seriously? c'mon, how many times have this theory been debunked?? get your facts straight. morey did not reach past dragic in order to get lin. he had NO idea that nyc wouldn't match the offer. morey himself told jeremy that he thought there was a 95% chance that nyc would match the offer and resign lin. basing a business decision on a 5% chance at anything isn't a very sound decision. morey took lin because he didn't have a choice! after dragic signed with with phx, he had NO other pg options, except for Ramon Sessions. remember, lin was a RESTRICTED free agent - meaning nyc held ALL the cards in signing lin and if they had decided to match any offer (something that EVERYONE and their moms thought they would do) there's nothing that houston could've done to get lin to come even if lin hated nyc and wanted to play in houston. Morey did NOT have the option of picking dragic vs. lin. he has the option of either signing dragic to 4 yr deal or not. that's it. it most likely went like this.... after failing to sign dragic, morey looked at all free agents and restricted free agents available at pg. saw that lin is still available. les says let's offer him a deal and see what happens. in fact let's add a bigger poison pill and see if nyc would match. they probably would but let's give it a shot anyway - nyc didn't match and here we are. surprised you didn't know this...
Probably not, I still think Lin is a little better than him. Teague is more explosive when going to the rim but Lin beats him in every other category (shooting is a wash)
It's more favorable for a team to hold bird rights than not to. Is there anything else I can help you understand? Half right. Same production, but with Teague's caphold, that's the important part. Spell it again, CAPHOLD. His caphold creates an extra $2.3M of cap space. It might appear a lateral move if it were only a 1 for 1 swap. It's not, it's Josh Smith's Bird rights and maintaining the cap flexibility to offer Dwight a max deal. Provided they believe Asik can be moved anytime. Often in the last few weeks the media has spoken much about how Morey creates his trades with earlier moves. This fits that M.O.
Yeah, why you would start a completely idiotic thread like this one here. Is it motivated by some kind of hate for Lin? This whole thread is a useless waste of server space.
You're post is disappointing for someone who's been here for a while but unfortunately not surprising given the past instances you've acted like this. I'm sorry for you if this is who you are.
He creates an extra $2.3M of space for the 5 months between now and July, when it doesn't matter. As soon as he becomes an RFA, he gets offered 8-10 Million/yr by some other team and now we either are stuck with him taking up MORE cap space, or we have to scramble to find a replacement after throwing away that 8 mil/yr guy we already had locked up.
The whole thread doesn't make any sense: It is basically a completely hypothetical, after-the-fact, outlandish scenario right after the trade deadline, that would and should have belonged into the Random Trade Idea thread before the trade deadline. There is absolutely no indication that the Rockets were ever considering trading Lin at all, certainly not for a player who is arguably not better and will make more money. On the contrary, reports were that not only Harden, but also Lin, Asik and Parsons are untouchable (except for a true superstar like Lebron and Durant, which would never happen anyway). There has been absolutely no indication that the Rockets have ever had any interest in Teague at all. Even if the Rockets liked Teague more than Lin (which I do not think), they would be giving up someone they have locked up for someone they might lose for nothing, based on an extremely slim chance that they could theoretically get both Josh Smith and Dwight Howard (which would put them in luxury tax hell, if the numbers could even be made to work, which I don't think, so you have no idea about the cap as well). So all this thread is based on is an idea that you had in your head which does not make any sense. Your thread fails on so many levels that it is ridiculous that I even have to spell it out to you. This is very disappointing for someone who has been here for a while (as it is to be here for 10 years and not to contribute). I cannot say if it is surprising or not because while I have seen your screen name, your 10,000 previous posts have never stood out to me one way or another. They must not have been very noteworthy. Sorry about that.
