Rockets acquire Thomas Robinson; Morris traded to Phoenix; Patterson, Douglas, Aldrich to Kings

Based on what? As already mentioned, he struggled defending bigger PFs. Just doesn't have the toughness or height for it. He also lacks the agility and hops to really make a big impact on help defense.

I'll give you this, he plays relatively mistake-free defense, and his instincts are solid. But his physical limitations do not allow him to be more than an average defensive player. You need strong tools, motor/toughness, AND sound instincts to be a plus defender as a big man, and PPat only has one of those three.

 

Rockets suck on 2k now....no backup PG...Asik still rated a 70 and Lin can't shoot

 

im sure that practice will take place Sunday, Monday and light Tuesday

 

Just to add to that--if you look at the example of Chuck Hayes, somebody a lot of people 'round here think of as a plus defender--he has 2.5 of those three. He's one of the toughest, strongest, smartest, hardest working big men in the NBA, and he's super agile. So he gets away with being undersized. Yet even for Chuckwagon, there were times he would be defender a 7 footer who would just shoot over him and there was nothing he could do to stop it.

Now subtract the extreme toughness and strength and agility from Chuckwagon, add only about an inch of height, and you've got PPat.

Sorry, but he is NOT a plus defender. He's not terrible, sure. But he's not good either. That's why I say mediocre, average, etc.

 

how can we forget the Kobe stopper :grin:

 

Yeah but that's exactly what I meant, its been a few years.

 

I heard all the Thomas Robinson hype when he was in college, but the only game I saw him play was the NCAA tourny game against Purdue. Kansas came back to win that game 63-60, but Robbie Hummel made TRob a non-factor by making him play defense. That worries me.

That being said, I'm still glad we got him. Dmo, TJ & TRob form a pf core for us for the future, whether as a player or a piece in a big trade.

 

Weve never needed offensive production from that spot so much, but rather rebounding and defense. One other need was a lack of "athleticism" meanin an above the rim game. He might not have the highest vertical but for what we gave up, he is a good gamble. Murray done good.

 

http://www.nba.com/kings/video/2013/02/19/TRobMixTHESETTINGmov-2390770

 

I highly doubt that McHale's incompetence is motivated by hatred.

In fact, McHale's incompetence may not even be his own fault. The way I figured it, one of the key requirements for McHale landing this job was probably being "very open" to following the management's suggestions/instructions when it comes to what to do on the court. If they tell him to play Aldrich/Patterson/Morris so they can be traded, he has to do it. If they tell him to play Harden at PG for a 10 game-stretch so Les can have his All Star in his All Star game, even if it means going 2-8, McHale has to do it.

This explains why he is so grumpy all the time, and when a player deviates from any of the dumb suggestions/instructions, natually McHale is pissed. "Hey, WTF, dude? It's my ass on the line here if you don't run what they ******* say! Run what they ******* say you imbeciles! Goddamnit, Motie, cut it out with the post plays and space the floor!"

 

Did they update the roster? And if so they still haven't added beverley?? He was in 2k11 it can't be that hard to add him in the game wtf.

 

This is a good take in the deal: What if Thinas Robinson just isn't that good?

http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2013/02/trade-deadline-musings-what-if-thomas.html

 

Seems odd that Kings would give up on a lottery pick in his rookie year. There must be more to the story. The Kings watch him in practice every day, so I think there may be something hidden.

 

Nah...They made JJ Hickson look like a scrub.

 

He's in Portland now and playing great.

 

The possibility that Robinson is a straight up bust is real. I have no idea what to make of Sac giving up on him so soon. I do know Sac is not the place for a guy who needs to develop his game, though.

The Synergy stats expose many deficiencies and a few pluses in Robinson's game. The kid can rebound, score in transition, and defend a little. Hopefully better coaching and a clearly defined role on a better team will help him develop/find his footing.

I wanna watch and see how this play out, but Morey's excitement over this guy makes me hopeful. This could be the Chauncy Billups Morey has been searching for.

 

Thats...excitingly true... lol

JJ went from nearly 14 and 9 on 45% in 80 games to about 5 and 5 on 37% when switching to the cavs to the kings. He played 35 games avg 18 mins with them. Then with portland he avg's 15 and 8 on 54% for his 19 games with them that season.

JJ some what of a similar to player to Robinson, they had very similar stats with the kings. Lets hope for the same outcome JJ had when switching to portland, for Robinson to have switching to us.

 

why is it a good take/read?

It's an admittadly biased article that concedes major points on the front end that blow it up.

 

Patterson's defense is underrated. He's not a strong low post presence. But he's a good positional defender. He is rarely out of position and is very good at switching and rotating. He has enough foot speed to defend the PnR.

I still don't understand why people harp on Robinson's rebounding and act like he's our savior in that department. I've been saying this countless times. Rebounding is NOT our problem. Defense is. We are one of the better rebounding teams even with a weak rebounder at the 4 spot.

What we need from our PF is good defense and good shooting. I am not saying this trade is not good because Robinson looks like a better prospect than either Patterson or Morris in the long run. But for NOW, we have gotten worse. We are forced to either play Parsons out of position (and start Delfino for heaven's sake!) or play one of the rookies, none of which is as good as Patterson and Morris right now.