[Woj] Terrence Jones being shopped for a first round pick

How would Jones have more value than a mid 1st round pick when he's a mid round pick himself and the only thing he's shown in this league is that he could play in D League?

 

I don't mind staying pat this time round

 

Minny might bite

 

TJ's lackluster season has been very surprising. He went from the guy that looked promising in pre-season play and seemingly on track to have a shot at taking the starting PF spot to the guy beaten out and relegated to bench duties by Marcus Morris (since we all knew Patterson's role was solidified).

Personally, I'd hang onto him. If nothing else to use to barter in trade negotiations. You know, for a team that talks about how much they covet Josh Smith, TJ's strengths/weaknesses are remarkably similar.

 

Coming back to bite us? How? As long as we get something back of equal or greater value then there is no problem. I think we all knew that some or most of our young power forwards would be moved at some point. so this comes as no surprise. We probably have many trades coming in the next couple of years, so I wouldn't get too found of any of our players. Harden isn't going anywhere, but he's the only one that is definitely safe. I think TJones may eventually become a good player, but as others have said we probably were never going to keep both D-Mo and TJones. I'm willing to let Morey do his thing and see how things shake out.

 

because he's a special talent and it's pretty damn obvious. All Jeremy Lamb has shown is that he can play in the D League too ....but he's also a special talent, and i guarantee you that OKC wouldn't trade him for a mid-round pick.

case in point: Morris was #14 pick, and probably pretty exemplary of what a typical 14th pick is. Yet most agree that Jones has far more upside. Pat's another good example of a typical 14th pick. Again, Jones has more upside

Last year's draft was considered a deep draft. So no ...he's not just a mid-round pick. He's better than that in my opinion.

 

Supposedly this draft is 2000 bad. Why are we trying to get a 1st rounder in it. Tjones might be a top 5 pick this year.

 

Interesting that its Jones' name being mentioned, but if you look back at the draft when Houston selected him, it sort of makes sense why he's the one they are looking to move.

-If Josh Smith gets dealt to the Bucks, or Nets, I wouldn't be shocked if Phoenix gave the Lakers pick/s up to Houston for Jones, Patterson, or possibly even Morris. The thought of getting the Morris twins back together has to be somewhat interesting to Sarver.

 

Draft picks are a bit like new cars. Once you take them off the lot (I.e. drafted someone with them) their value starts declining-- unless they earn minutes and produce quickly.

 

I would have traded all three picks AND Martin for Harden.

Lamb for Harden (which is basically what that was for us since we REALLY did not want Martin anymore).

Jones we would be getting something back.

White, well it doesn't look good.

What Morey does is equivalent to that story about the guy that started off with a cell phone and ended up with a Porsche or something. I would not worry one second about what Morey does with ANY of our players. He has a plan for EVERY single thing he does that has a multitude of scenarios for each move.

Besides, our future is so much brighter now than it has been in a long time. In fact, I think we have a brighter future than 90% of the league.

 

Assets to trade for a star player. Morey would most likely want to acquire first hand picks where he could negotiate the protection levels to better suit the Rockets getting a high draft pick this year, or skipping this year all together and moving to future years to keep the value high.

I would assume Morey would prefer this over 2nd hand picks they are likely to get offered. Of all the 2nd hand draft picks out there, I wouldn't be surprised if Morey Coveted this pick from Phoenix from the Nash trade-

2015 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
The L.A. Lakers own 2015 1st round pick to Phoenix (Top-5 Protected in the 2015 NBA Draft, top-3 protected in 2016, top-3 protected in 2017 and unprotected in the 2018 Draft). [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]


Very intriguing pick to use in trades given 2015 could be a year that Kobe, and co. are finally exiting the league, and the team could project to be a rebuilding team. When acquiring picks... the key words are INTRIGUING and POTENTIAL.

 

Most likely because we want to stagger back one of our rookies on a new rookie deal and we want to pick up someone like Tony Mitchell, a different kind of player than what we have on this roster who could potentially provide us some lock down D on guys like Wade and James when the time comes.

 

Some of you posters overrate T Jones so much it isn't even funny anymore ...
You guys are making it out like he is the next Star PF ... please if he was good enough McHale would've played him already. I much rather let McHale evaluate big man talents. What is the point of keeping him if we are not going to play him. We already have so many forwards might as well trade them for picks.

 

Doubt it has anything to do with his contract or needs on the basketball court.

As Carl alluded to earlier, draft picks are like cars... once you drive them off the lot the value drops significantly. This move would be about positioning the Rockets with quality trade assets first and foremost. When a rookie plays out his rookie full season, and never plays a minute, where do you think their value is in a trade for a star player? Then think about a 2015 1st round pick with limited protection.

What's more intriguing to a GM who is looking to move their star player this Summer? The 2nd year player who couldn't break the rotation or a potential draft pick that could land you the next Damian Lillard?

This move would be about the Rockets setting themselves up more favorably for another All-Star trade this Summer and beyond. Nothing more, and nothing less.

 

And make D-League all stars.

 

Marcus Morris is not better than Terrance Jones.

 

Rip Hamilton +

You can bet Morey will ask for this pick first...

2013 first round draft pick from Charlotte
Charlotte's own 2013 1st round draft pick to Chicago (top-12 protected in the 2013 Draft, top-10 protected in 2014, top-8 protected in 2015 and unprotected in the 2016 Draft.) [Charlotte - Chicago, 2/18/2010]

If he can't get that then...

Rights to Nikola Mirotic

If he can't get those two, he'll ask for...

Lottery Protected 1st rd pick

Maybe Terrence Jones will be thrown in

 

This might happen. TJ looks like a beast at times-- but his motor isn't always running. I still hope he'll go Terrensanity here; but, if DM can get a decent 1st-round pick for him, then yeah, do it, please.

 

That's fine. Honestly, Jones, White, Morris, and Patterson can all be traded if the Rockets want. I'd like the second star that Houston acquires to be a PF, and none of those guys fits the bill. They're all adequate players, but not stars. Get a legit PF, and clear out the dross.

 

According to Who... you?

Look Marcus Morris won rotation minutes this year, and Jones didnt. You can argue that Jones has a higher upside that Morris if you want to, but your not going to win an argument about who is "better."