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TNT apologizes for Reggie Miller

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by LosPollosHermanos, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. Zboy

    Zboy Member

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    Carmelo posts more and yet shoots worse FG% than either Lebron or Durant, when in fact he should have a higher FG% for being a better post player?

    Ooops!

    In last Knicks playoff series, Carmelo took 1/3 of total shots available to the Knicks, 40% of total shots in one game, while shooting at a mere 40% clip for the entire series.

    Sounds like a pure chucker to me.
     
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  2. CCorn

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    Are we hating on miller or melodrama?
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Because you don't know we are talking when we say pure scorer. He score from anywhere doesn't need to get his feet set doesn't need to tuck his elbow. He can run at full speed and pull up from anywhere. If he gets an offensive rebound it doesn't matter who is under the basket playing defense.
     
  4. steddinotayto

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    You can dissect what I posted all you want but what I said was pretty clear cut:

    Which, by definition, means that he has multiple ways of scoring on you much like what Kobe has done for most of his career.

    If you need better clarification on this it's basically down to this: Melo can score in more ways than Durant can. Remember how Durant's offensive game coming into the league was all about his teammates setting screens for him? Remember how Durant stood around at times because he didn't learn how to get to the ball without said screens? Durant's offensive game has been improved exponentially the past 3 seasons. But all-around? That's where Kobe and Melo has him beat. Can Durant learn how to post up? Of course he can but why should he considering his hot zones are ridiculously hot? The only reasons are either defenses start crowding him and doubling him at the three point line or he simply wants to move his game down low.
     
  5. Jontro

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    I thought Bleacher was a satire thing like the Onion.
     
  6. eMat

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    It seems that the over the years by "pure scorer" people have meant "He scores a lot but does not do much else", i.e., it's hardly a compliment. That is why Durant and LeBron are better at scoring and yet worse pure scorers. But in reality, give me LeBron over pure scorer Melo any day in any situation of a game... except for a freethrow maybe.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    This is an even dumber responses. It doesn't mean he doesn't rebound play defense or whatever.
     
  8. FearTheBeardJH

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    Carmelo post-up: 0.95 PPP(210 plays), 10th in the league
    Durant post-up: 1.08 PPP(144 plays), 4th in the league

    Scoring titles:
    Durant: 3
    Carmelo: 0

    Seasons with TS% over .570(including this season):
    Durant: 5(out of 6)
    Carmelo: 0(out of 10)


    It's ridiculous to say that Melo is the best scorer when Durant is having perhaps the most efficient high volume scoring in NBA history.
    http://bkref.com/tiny/8eo8L
     
  9. NL Rocket

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    There's no such thing as a pure scorer, there is such a thing as a pure shooter though.
     
  10. durvasa

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    But Kobe is a better post-up player than Carmelo, and he's the one with all those 50+ scoring games. He can score in every which way. So if that's your criteria, why wouldn't Kobe be the best all around scorer?
     
  11. steddinotayto

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    Is there a lack of reading comprehension (or reading at all) before someone decides to flame my post?

    Did I ever say Carmelo is the best scorer? Nope
    Did I ever say Carmelo is better than Durant? Nope
    Did I ever say Carmelo is more efficient than Durant? Nope
     
  12. steddinotayto

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    I think in my replies I've mentioned Kobe as a comparative player when the discussion is about all-around haven't I? Why would I choose Carmelo over Bryant? I mean their career numbers are about the same right? The main reason FOR ME (and I am saddened that people fail to forget or decide to overlook that glaring fact that it's just MY opinion and preference) is because of Carmelo's size which creates more issues down low for the SFs that guards him. In all honesty, the gap between the players for me isn't all that wide when it comes to "all-around" scorer.
     
  13. pgabriel

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    For me its more than posting up. Kobe is a better ball handler so he is better a getting into position to get his shot off. However Kobe has to do that because like Jordan his shot relies on the perfect form that it is. Carmelo can just jump from any position and get his shot off. He has great touch and his shot is mostly all wrist action.
     
  14. fallenphoenix

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    uhhhhhh. what? i think you need to comprehend your own posts
     
  15. pgabriel

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    I think you are playing semantics. He has already explained his position on what all around vs best means. But ignoring that carmelo has been near the top of scoring his entire career so would it be outlandish to say he is the best.
     
  16. juicystream

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    But you did say until Durant can post up like Carmelo, but his post shows that Durant actually posts up more frequently than Carmelo.

    Durant has a serious height advantage multiplied by those freakishly long arms. Your reasoning just doesn't make that much sense.
     
  17. pgabriel

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    Maybe I'm being hard headed but just because he posts up more doesn't mean he is better
     
  18. Angkor Wat

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    So what exactly did Reggie do? Reference a bleacher report article? And TN apologized for that? Lol
     
  19. real_egal

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    Reggie was a great shooter and all, and he ran tirelessly to get himself open. That's the only thing I like about him, and I only remember Ray Allen and Rip Hamilton did that game after game, and year after year, consistently. Nowadays. young players are too cool to work/move to get open.

    However, I always hate his kicking-out-drawing-contact/foul crap, and I never liked his terrible voice. But what makes him even more intolerable on broadcast is his strong bias towards teams and players, and he's not ashamed to unleash utter nonsense to support his own bias.
     
  20. steddinotayto

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    So what part did I not comprehend? I'm certain that I said "all around" between "best" and "player". What's the difference between best all-around and best scorer? It's pretty simple: best all-around scorer is a player that can score in many different ways and is not limited to a couple of moves. For example: Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony, and when he was with Orlando, Tracy McGrady. To make a baseball analogy, this is like having a player that can hit for power, hit for average, and maybe even steal some bases.

    Best scorer? This is the player that can just flat out score but have some kind of limitation, for example, Durant. Does this limitation negates him from being a badass scorer? Nope considering how crazy good he is shooting right now. This is akin to a homerun slugger that can knock it out of the ballpark at any given moment but has a hard time just getting that inside hit or bunt down.

    I'm not scoffing off the fact that Durant's offensive game has evolved into something that most of us has never seen before and I don't doubt that he can improve his post up game for years to come like he has this year compared to previous years. It would be stupid of me to say Anthony's better than Durant considering the season KD's having but why is it so hard for many to understand what I'm saying when I say "all-around"? This isn't a testament on who I think is better; it's actually more of an opinion on how has a more well rounded game.
     

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