People who trash Morey don't know how godawful the vast majority of NBA GMs are.

I'm not sure you even understand what's written at your own link.

Wanting somebody to mentor their own successor literally implies that that person is already on their way out, and yet you've pointed to it as the reason the person was on the way out.

And indeed, that's pretty much what "we'll let you stay if you train your replacement" freaking means. lol come on meh you are better than this

 

This is the very first sentence.

 

Agreed. Big difference, and it's NOT just semantics.

It's like saying the Rockets "traded Rudy Gay" for Shane Battier. They were NEVER going to select and keep Gay for themselves. Other moves would have been made (like drafting Thabo Sefalosha) if that trade weren't made, but none of them involved drafting Rudy Gay to play for the Houston Rockets.

Sadly, most people take a set of circumstances that play out a certain way and determine in their own minds that its means "X" even when it really was "Y".

 

I was responding to what I quoted. Specifically, this quote below. The part above that I ignored because it seemed like a typical "agree to disagree" thing.

 

Adelman getting the boot was more than that, and you see it this year more than last year.

Mchale was running some questionable rotations earlier in the year, but the one thing I noticed was that he was running them long enough to get meaningful info from it, and by meaningful info i mean for Morey's stats team to get info.

It's seeming quite obvious that that info is then flowing down to Mchale who has adjusted his rotations (they didn't get much better overnight by fluke).

And this was essentially the problem with Adelman, he ignores all that fancy new stuff and continues with his god awful rotations. Great offense, great ball movement, he'd be perfect for a self selecting rotation like the Lakers, but these average teams like we were after the stars went down and now Minnesota, he'll never get them away from the 50:50 range.

 

What I'm speaking of is whatever disagreements between Adelman and management / ownership manifested long before he was given the choice of either leaving that year or leaving after he trained his replacement. This is the kind of stuff that is alluded to in your article. By the time Adelman was at the "training his successor" stage, he was already on the way out. You see?

We don't know what any of that prior stuff was with any degree of specificity, even now, and in fact there were CF threads upon thread on this very subject riddled with speculation. We'll probably never know for sure unless Adelman or the Rockets spill the beans with details, and quite often one or both parties are legally bound to not do that anyway. We're so uncertain about this topic that we couldn't even say if this was Daryl Morey's decision to part ways with Adelman and go a different direction or Les Alexander's.

I think your theories are plausible, but they'll never be more than theories unless either the Rockets or Rick Adelman just up and for no reason decides to speak about why they felt Adelman should not coach the Rockets any longer.

That's my point. We'll never know for sure, but I'd say 80-20 that it was a firing while giving the man the best figurative "letter of recommendation" possible. Like I said, this is how you do that, from a team standpoint. You point to vague "disagreements" between the two parties, play up how thankful you are for all of his tireless work and dedication to the organization, and mention how certain you are he will have luck getting a job in the future because he's quite good at what he does. Firing has very negative connotations, usually, but at a very basic level it is a description of a termination of employment, and this most certainly was that, in at least the softest way possible.

 

I can't add to any of the rest of the discussion, but I'd thought the same thing about what McHale was doing. I think they really were trying out ALL the possible combo's and trying them out past the point of, "this is new to us so of course it will fail." TBH, I don't think you can get any meaningful info with anything less than at least 10min in real-game situations (instead of garbage-time situations). Where garbage-time is useful imo is for the rookies to rub some of the shiny-newness off, ie. 'omg I'm playing in the nba!', and for them to practice the plays and rotations at nba speed.

Actually, I think that's also why McHale always seems a step 'late' in unleashing the rookies for garbage-time; because they're using the minutes to get the starters (who are also really young and inexperienced) time to practice new things in game situations.

 

my last request is get LMA.
Lin
Harden
Parsons
Aldridge
Asik

 

didn't read, but i agree with your thread title

 

Morey knows talents...i mean how many guys have he robbed so far...Scola, Hayes, Brooks, Budinger, Landry...i mean the list go on and on........

 

It's not pointless hate, it's giving an opinion on a message board. And like most things written on a forum it's impossible to prove. It's no different than the majority of stuff you'll find on any forum.

It's not different than stating James Harden is a better player for the Rockets than Joe Johnson.

Adelman's regarded as one of the better coaches in the nba and the resume to back it up. Two NBA Finals and four conference finals. A career winning % of 60%. McHale has never taken a team to the playoffs and has a winning % of 46%.

 

Stole this from a Timberwolves forum, have no idea on the original source, but poster claims it to be Bucher.

 

Alright seriously I see a new Maurrii thread like every day. And they all say the same ****. Why do people feel the need to regurgitate crap we know and have heard all the time.

 

Because way too many people have bashed Morey, they were wrong and people love to say I told you so.

 

Yep.

 

not sure if this has been posted already, but anyway...

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2013/02/alexander-plans-to-extend-gm-moreys-contract/#more-14763

 

As far as I'm concerned Morey made 4 good moves over the summer - the fourth being signing Carlos Delfino. I was totally WTF? about it at the time, but he's turned out to be a valuable addition.

I'm looking forward to seeing how well Beverley and Anderson do. The both look good so far, but its too early to tell for sure.

 

I honestly hope that the rockets don'rt make the play-offs again, just so we can get yet another first rounder with the team that we already have.

 

...you do realize that playoff teams get to draft too, right?

 

you do know that the sh!ttier teams get the higher picks right?