Again, what point are you trying to make? Patrick Beverley has a better assist/turnover ratio than Lin, does that mean that he should have the ball in his hands the most and Lin should be benched? Any team's superstar player is going to have the highest usage rate, deal with it. Do you think there are Miami Heat fans crying that Lebron James has the highest usage rate on his team despite not playing PG?
Very nad points. Beverley hasn't played enough to compare. Heat fans would complain if LeBron was not good at facilitating. LeBron has 148 turnovers, Lin 160 and Harden 200. LeBrons ratio is 2.34, Lin's is 2.12 and Harden is at 1.50. Clearly Lin should handle the ball more tha Harden. The Rockets play better this way also. Are you really a Rocket fan?? Not just a Lin fan baiter troll??
Harden is the superstar player on the Rockets, he's going to have the highest usage rate....what is hard to understand about that? You were the one talking about TO/Assist ratio, point is Beverley's is better, of course, that doesn't matter, but if you acknowledge that, you have to acknowledge that the whole TO/Assist ratio = best ball handler BS you were trying to come with is flawed. Harden leads all SG's in assists, Chandler Parsons is top 10 in assists among SF's....Combine those two things and you don't have a shortage of facilitators. Houston is 7th in the league in assists, 10th in assist/turnover ratio.....the point being, they are doing well, why are you complaining?
Okkkaayy... so Beverly hasn't played enough, but what about the 40 point guards who have a better ratio than Lin? Should we trade Lin for them since that's the only thing that matters to you? Nothing matters but ast/to ratio right? Not the fact that players can do other things with the ball instead of get an assist, like maybe score too? Or are we just playing a game with just assist? lol Your guy's arguments are comical at this point.
The Rockets are LAST in the league in turnovers and would have more wins if they cut turnovers down - that's what I'm complaining about. You know I really don't think you're a Rockets fan the way you keep knocking the talent of the players. You say over and over and over how we are overacheiving and how McHale is the reason for this and we'd be lottery picks without his great leadership. It's a criticism of the players we have, particularly Lin, and a true Rocket's fan would not be minimizing the players ability. Personally I think we've got great talent and are UNDERACHEIVING because of POOR COACHING.
They are the youngest, least experienced team in the league.....hmmm I wonder why they have a lot of turnovers. By your rational they should play Beverly over Lin so they'll turn the ball over less right? You say I'm "knocking" the talent of the Rockets, I'm not knocking them, I'm being honest. They are packed full of young talent, but they have so little experience that I don't expect all that much from them. Perhaps you need to be a little bit more realistic in your expectations.
The Rockets are also first in pace. As far as posting, you should be ranked way lower in pace than you are currently. That's what a lot of people are complaining about.
Another thing that's so ridiculous is how the goalposts keep moving. Guy talks about players TO/Assist ratio, I point out that the Rockets as a team are top 10 in that stat, then he switches it to total number of turnovers....Again, not something that helps out the "Lin needs the ball more" argument because there are only 3 PG's in the NBA with more turnovers than Lin. This discussion honestly needs to end because it's ridiculous. Those who think that McHale needs to be fired for taking a rebuilding team that's the youngest in the league and getting a winning record and possibly a playoff berth out of them are simply nuts. Is he some amazing coach? No, but I fail to see any reason he should be fired simply because the team is spreading the ball around and it's taking some of the glory away from Jeremy Lin.
How about Bobbby? He's posting more than I am. A lot of people are complaining because apparently there are a lot of people who don't like Lin on this forum and can't stand to hear an opinion that is different than theirs. A lot of people who like Lin (and there are more of these than those who don't) are afraid to speak up for fear of the "I don't like Lin crowd".
You assume that I don't like Lin just because I don't think 32 minutes a game is far too few for him but that's not the case. I was skeptical of Lin at first, as I was of Harden, but he's shown he can be a pretty decent PG so I have no problems with him. That sort of shows how ridiculous this whole situation is, if you don't think that the coach should be fired for "only" playing Lin 32 minutes a game, you are assumed to hate Lin.
I think the coach should be fired because I think the TEAM is UNDERACHEIVING. You on the other hand think the team is overacheiving based on the coach which means you think the players are not up to par. If you think the sitiuation is ridiculous then just go away.
Yes, Lin does have unacceptable turnover% of 19.6%. Those LOFs and their "eye test" on McHale To quote former Rocket Balki Bartokomous, "Go to eye doctor!". Go to eye doctor, indeed. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>“@<a href="https://twitter.com/teemunny">teemunny</a>: .@<a href="https://twitter.com/ndotsmitty">ndotsmitty</a> Get well and heal up, Bro. Cheap hit by @<a href="https://twitter.com/goran_dragic">goran_dragic</a>. What a dick.”go to eye doctor! I didn't play in this game</p>— Goran Dragic (@Goran_Dragic) <a href="https://twitter.com/Goran_Dragic/status/225494558849511425">July 18, 2012</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Yes, you think that the youngest, least experienced team in which was thrown together at the last minute should win 60 games and if they don't, it's the coach's fault, I get that. Of course that's not rooted in reality. I don't think ANYONE would have predicted the Rockets would be above .500 at this point before the season started so it's hard to argue that they are underachieving when they are actually achieving more than ANYONE would have thought they would especially given the fairly tough schedule thus far.
You guys say you're Rockets fans but pile so much hate on your starting PG. I think you'd rather see Lin fail than the Rockets win. Now before you get pisssed just remember that's what you keep saying about LOF's.
Not true. We had a poll during preseason and there were a good many who felt that we could pull out a .500 record. I believe that was pre-Harden as well.
Fair enough, I would argue that the"fair amount" that thought the Rockets would be a winning team this year, especially those who thought that pre-Harden trade, would be what we call "homers" and they don't really count.
What hate? I just pointed out that your argument of Lin having a better ast/to ratio as reason to make Lin the highest usage guy on our team was flawed and wrong. Lin's turnover % is 19.8 Lin's assist % is 28.8 Lin's usg % is 19.8 Harden's turnover % is 14.8 Harden's assist % is 25.0 Haren's usg % is 29.2 You are using faulty facts to try to prop Lin up and argue for more opportunities with the ball. Others give you facts that dispute this claim and you take this as hate when we are only giving you the truth.
