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Faried Becomes First NBA Player To Join Group Fighting Homophobia In Sports

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by lookabove, Feb 13, 2013.

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  1. Scientific1

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    Old schools? So long as you have hetero masculine men; from the sticks or the hood, making it rain at strip clubs, there's always going to be locker room chatter. I'm sure there are more than enough closet guys on teams, teammates have probably wondered about, but don't have any reason to oust them.

    Having groupies, treating women as nothing but objects, and demonstrating toughness, are all deemed as being a man. If women in the locker room is a problem, it'll be a long time before most any straight male will ever be comfortable with having an openly gay teamate.
     
  2. Arthurprescott2

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    But what if I said:
    You're Persian? Does that mean you're Iranian? Are a *****ing terrorist?

    That wouldn't piss you off? Who the hell thinks of the cat?
     
  3. Stash Musial

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    i really wish people would stop using religion as a crutch for their myopia. Gay rights and racial equality are the same because they are both about human rights. Why should gay people be forced to be celibate?
     
  4. Stash Musial

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    Stop being flippant. Gay slurs have always had negative connotation because there was actual oppression tied to that group of people. White people dont care about being called cracker because we never faced any real problems because we were white. Your metaphor is an intentional strawman, so your metaphor falls short. Why dont you just stop being so lazy with your use of language. Is it asking that much of you to stop using a word that has decades of abuse tied to it?
     
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  5. emcitymisfit

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    I'm so glad I chose to be straight.

    Fat virgins are so glad they made the choice to be asexual.

    Seriously, you anti-gay marriage nuts are insane. Of course it's different than your ethnicity, but your arguments are virtually exactly the same as the ones against interracial marriage and even troop integration (morale, choice, "tradition," etc).

    I can't choose to be attracted to black chicks, but I can choose not to marry one, so we should make that illegal?
     
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  6. emcitymisfit

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    I can choose not to marry a black girl (I'm white). Some people think that interracial marriage is distasteful and unnatural. Should it be illegal?
     
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    walla?

    you just butchered the phrase "voila" and told someone else to use his brain.
     
  8. across110thstreet

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    these children likely come from broken homes as they are up for adoption or foster care. bringing them into a loving home with two decent parents who WANT to raise children is likely the best thing for these children, regardless of the sexual orientation for the parents. it also fosters tolerant, loving children who turn out just fine, despite what you are just making up as far as percentages go.

    then there is the factor that one of the two could be the biological parent, like in Faried's case. two dads can raise a child that was given birth through a surrogate, two moms can have a sperm donor, etc.
     
  9. professorjay

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    Well there's still plenty of people who use the word 'gay' because they believe being gay is wrong and they're disgusting people. And whether you intend that definition or not, it came about that way. We have not gone to the point where it has shed that meaning from everyone.

    Also I can call my friend an idiot after they do something because they know where I'm coming from. If I say it to a stranger they probably won't take it the same way.
     
  10. Gertso

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    It doesn't offend me when people say it but it does make that person seem pretty immature to me.
     
  11. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Not really.

    But even if it did piss me off it isn't the same. I'm not going to gay people and saying "are you stupid?" I am calling something that is stupid "gay". It isn't the same usage of the word. It isn't an attack like the former is, it's a homonym like the ladder is. It's like saying someone is sophomoric vs. a sophomore. It's a minor twist on the word, but used in different contexts one is an insult and the other is innocuous.
     
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    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    No my metaphor is apt. You see it as a strawman attack because your argument lacks substance. My argument draws a parallel between two linked things (being gay and straight), your metaphor is a stretch at best. I'm sorry it bothers you sir, but frankly I think you're just being overly hetero about this. I personally think it's sad if a use of one word gets people that butt hurt about it. The word has as much power as you let it, and if you want it to be an attack on homosexuals that is your choice, not mine. If anything, you're the one who is correlating homosexual to mean stupid, not me.
     
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    First, if you gonna reply to my post, it would be nice to reference only something I said. I don't recall mentioning ANYTHING about religion. Do you see any mention of religion in my post?

    Second, who ever said gay people should be forced to be celibate? Reading skills are necessary to make valid points. I said that gay people have the "option" to be celibate if they "choose to", so therefore it is not equivelant to a race in which a person has not choice in the matter.

    Therefore they are NOT the same.
     
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    You have a problem with people abusing gay people and calling them names, but you openly call those same people "nuts and insane" You dont see the irony?

    I already gave the difference against it being the same as interracial marriage, but you probably didn't bother to read that or comprehend it. But your arguments are all over the place and not making any real sense other than showing that you are upset over the issue.
     
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    You could also choose to marry a dog and some people find that distasteful and unnatural....should it be illegal?

    I mean your question has no valid point as already stated because one's race and being gay are not equal!
     
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    it only took 75 posts this time to bring up someone marrying their dog.
     
  17. Shroopy2

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    Just overall, the whole "gay thing" and homophobia is a very overrated boogeyman scare. The numbers we have now shows that REAL homosexuality & LGBT is a very LOW number of the population. A big fright about very little.

    (BI-sexuality is a much higher number, but people accept that more for "fetishy" reasons, or as long as they're SOMETIMES hetero I guess it counts some.) The "curious" people who explore for image and thrills with being "truly sincere" can be as disrespectful as anything at times)

    Its that gays are so LOW a number its too easy to marginalize them in a hetero-dominant society. (Similar to Jews and Asians, small population overwhelmingly outnumbered). Blacks are twice the population of gays, which means more representation overall, so racism can be considered bigger in "scale".

    That doesnt mean small groups DONT COUNT and SHOULD get more overlooked. Everyone deserves all the respect. Its that being gay hasnt showing itself to be THAT "communicable". And it can't be fixed either. There's a higher chance of being born with autism than being born gay. Just let nature take its course and deal with it.
     
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    Gotta go, fight club!
     
  19. AXG

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    Well said!
     
  20. Ultimate6thMan

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    Yeah but don't take it out of context. I was NOT equating gay marriage to marrying someone's dog.

    I was using the point to show that using interracial marriage as equivalent to the issue of gay marriage is not valid...just like you would not equate marrying animals to gay marriage either.
     

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