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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. jtr

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    Yeah, like allowing knuckle pushups was such a great idea. And the T-Wolves had such a banner year last year.

    Sigh. Statistically there is no "in game effect". If you think so then it is just your opinion. Research by scientists in a peer reviewed scientific article says you are wrong.

    For a recap:

    http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2012/05/can-nba-timeouts-decide-games.html
     
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    Well pedigreed NBA head coaches are all head cases who want to mold the team in their image. Adeled-man and JVG were just our two latest examples.
     
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    Steal&Deal makes another account?

    The fact this dude is a troll is pretty undeniable though. Why did you take all that time out to create an account and get banned on a site you don't care for.
     
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    That article just seems to be about timeouts not substitutions or keeping starters out in crucial periods of the game and OT.
     
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    You blame McHale for Lin and Asik having to go to the bench for extended time, their poor conditioning isn't the coach's fault.
     
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    First of all I don't believe they are poorly conditioned. Second of all if they are poorly conditioned it IS the coaches fault. Third of all if they are poorly conditioned the coach should rest them enough so that they CAN play in the 4th Q and OT.
     
  7. jtr

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    Well do you have any valid evidence that the rotations are holding the Rockets back? No you do not. Then it just must be your newbie opinion.

    And take a gander at this paper. There is no statistical difference between the great Jackson and the average coach. It is the Players.

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...aUw3JJ&sig=AHIEtbRmxkgkT3HH6Jf2G20E43DQLcA_gg
     
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    First of all you're a newbie yourself. Second of all yes I do have evidence. Exhibit A: Houston vs Dallas at home on Dec. 8. McHales first game back after his extended leave of absence. Asik played 20 minutes and Lin 18 and both sat the entire 4th Q. Both were playing well and neither was hurt. We lost the game.
     
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    But you didn't. You did not quote any of my 5 questions in your response. You quoted the "In short..." portion at the end, to which you provided a response that has nothing to do with chemistry. It only had to do with one player getting benched which you apparently don't like.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7639591&postcount=1980

    Can you prove, or even show relationship, that the team has played worse and worse as a result of the benching? If you at least tried, I'd have actually answered those questions, I'd have felt you were genuine in trying having a conversation.
     
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    You don't have to believe it. Most people would look at them breathing heavily and starting to play sloppily late in games and realize that as poor conditioning, but you certainly aren't required to.
     
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    Actually neither of them really have poor conditioning. McHale said that Lin came into camp in excellent shape. Also Omer conditioned himself this summer. Big issue with Omer is that he plays on one gear & one gear only. Needs to learn to play on multiple gears. This was his problem in Chicago. He goes all out every possession & that is exhausting.
     
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    That is not proof. That is your opinion based on none of the information the coaching staff possessed. Pure wild speculation. A quote from a previous comment:

    Coaches control little in the actual flow of a game. A common refrain fans have against their head coach is "he's a bad in-game coach! He doesn't make adjustments!" Let's get one thing straight: every single possible thing a coach could do within the game has been talked out and discussed beforehand. Very little comes as a surprise to any coach within the flow of the game. If a coach doesn't look like he is making adjustments, it's because he's already accounted for that scenario in his head and is one step ahead of you. Or, sometimes, he's one step ahead of himself.
     
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    Fair enough, point is the reason they end up sitting is because they are tired. There is no conspiracy. McHale doesn't hate Jeremy Lin, he doesn't hate Asik, he doesn't hate Motiejunas. I swear to god, I'm shocked people haven't tried blaming McHale for the Kennedy assassination yet.
     
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    You're saying that not playing 2 of your starters the whole 4th quarter "controls little in the flow of the game"???????

    What a load of crap. I can't even believe I'm discussing this with you any more. You win this is too idiotic to continue.
     
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    He doesn't hate them, he just doesn't know when to use them for optimal results.:grin:
     
  16. jtr

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    meh, This statistical analysis shows that there is no difference between the great Phil Jackson and the average coach. It comes down to the players every time. Over seasons of analysis coaches really have very little influence. The talent on the floor dictates the games.

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...aUw3JJ&sig=AHIEtbRmxkgkT3HH6Jf2G20E43DQLcA_gg
     
  17. Steal&Deal

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    You don't "rest" starters for 6,7,8,9,10 minutes because they need a breather. Anybody who knows anything about basketball knows that.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Their record says otherwise.
     
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    You do when they need it. Also, you do realize this team is winning right? LOL this team probably should be one of the worst in the league right now and they might make the playoffs....
     
  20. jtr

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    It truly does not over a statistically significant number of games. Nada. Nil. Please read the oft-quoted scientific paper. It will help if you have a degree in mathematics.

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...aUw3JJ&sig=AHIEtbRmxkgkT3HH6Jf2G20E43DQLcA_gg
     

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