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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Clippers 2/13/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 13, 2013.

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#2161 wuhailq, Feb 14, 2013

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cytrynowa said: ↑

You are definitely a woman new to the world of sports.
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GoRockets! said: ↑

of course you with your high horse and condescension again. Why am I even surprised?

When you have nothing solid argument to counter my two previous post, all you can do is calling people 'know nothing about sports'. yea, right. Why don't you show us how much you know the sports?
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cytrynowa said: ↑

I can visualize you now... young Asian girl and this is how you argue with your boyfriend. I hope he doesn't forget to give you a Valentine's Day present today.
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GoRockets! said: ↑

owww, you are genius that you know everything about me. Are you pissed because I struck you hard to rebuff your nonsense and you are unable to make any whatsoever counter argument?

When you don't have any solid argument to counter my point in my posts, yea, resorting to name-calling, typical!
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DeMarcus Cousins says... :grin:

BTW... Multi-Quote FTW!

#2162 el gnomo, Feb 14, 2013
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I'm sick of the softness of our players, Lin needs to man up and get back at some of these guys hitting him with nasty blows. We need an edge, nobody on our team is ready to foul hard to let guys know they can't just come into the paint and alley oop their way to a win. We need a nasty guy like Deke!

#2163 NL Rocket, Feb 14, 2013
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GoRockets! said: ↑

There is a tough love, and there is D'Antoni's style of love. Personally I would rather have D'Antoni style of love: let him make and learn from mistakes by playing him not yelling all the time and pulling him out whenever he (it's not just Lin, any other young players that's on our roster, be it Parsons or D-Mo) makes a mistake. Lin is not the type that you need to whip his ass to make him better. He has enough self-motivation and self-consciousness to know what/if he did right or wrong. That's why my response to all the 'tough love' is: meh.
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D'Antoni only used Lin out of desperation. He didn't even KNOW HIS NAME for a while after Lin signed with the Knicks. And let's be honest, he had no choice but to leave him in at that point.

BTW, D'Antoni was pretty 'mean' when it came to TD lol.

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#2164 el gnomo, Feb 14, 2013
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jeddah said: ↑

This one from a different person...in reply to comments about McHale going ballistic against Lin..
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what does mchale know about pg play....he relates more with hollins than he does cp3

#2165 knickstorm, Feb 14, 2013
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SuperStar said: ↑

Sounds like you two just have a misunderstanding that's all.

Cytrynow is talking about the Lin fans that think McHale has some kind of a conspiracy against Lin while you're saying that you just don't like their coaching style.

I don't like all the speculation and fake body language experts that act like they know what exactly is going on.
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I never ever for one second believe there is a conspiracy against Lin. I laugh at those comments. In another thread, I even posted McHale's words from Jonathan Feigen's article just try to clear up that wrong belief held by some extreme fans.

I made the above argument not because I wanted but because I feel it's really annoying that some people like to to label others as fanatic 'rubbish talking' LOFs whenever they post anything remotely appearing to support Lin. There are Lin fans and there are LOFs and there are extreme LOFs. Labeling people without any evidence whatsoever accusing them for what they never said or believed in the first place is truly arrogant and annoying.

I say she is assuming way too much because she has probably never seen my tons of comments criticizing Lin's game and my other comments in various threads on various issues and she dared to assume I'm a Lin fangirl already who knows nothing about sports. Wow, just wow.

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Rockets590 said: ↑

I agree. No need to overreact to the yelling of Lin. It's like your parent yelling at you for doing something wrong because they care. It would be worse if Mchale just told him to go to the bench without every saying anything. Mchale's rotations are iffy though.
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yea except in this case your parent put you up for adoption, then you got famous and they lured you back from your foster parents and continue to scream at you.

#2167 knickstorm, Feb 14, 2013

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whoa anybody comparing mchale to Pop, that's just pure laughter. You're talking about a hall of fame spy that masquerades as a hall of fame coach! One who holds everybody accountable not just one player. so please stop.

#2168 conquistador#11, Feb 14, 2013
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This game reveals James Harden is MVP by miles and miles.

#2169 bloodwings19, Feb 14, 2013
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Can everyone shut the f-u-c up please?? Be happy that freaking Donuts got some playing time and drop what 16 pts?

#2170 VanityHalfBlack, Feb 14, 2013
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bloodwings19 said: ↑

This game reveals James Harden is MVP by miles and miles.
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Yes, 2 points at home court is miles and miles of improvement indeed!

#2171 YoungGods, Feb 14, 2013
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Last time we had harden and we lose to clippers w/o cp3 by 8pt...
Good game, looking forward to see more d-mo

#2172 dream1222, Feb 14, 2013
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Didn't watch but 46 first-quarter points?!

Guess we can't blame James Harden for that, ha.

46 points and an 18 point deficit to start the game, that's tough.

#2173 J.R., Feb 14, 2013

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NL Rocket said: ↑

This! McHale just doesn't like to play rookies, even if they're 10.000x better than the fat blob who played two/three years.
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Agreed!

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Chandler Parsons & Patrick Beverly

#2174 Nook, Feb 14, 2013
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Nook said: ↑

Agreed!

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Chandler Parsons & Patrick Beverly
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And now Motiejunas! I am kinda pissed I missed this game last night. Looks like he did really well in the 16 minutes he played. 13 points on 5-8 shooting. Well done.

#2175 davidio840, Feb 14, 2013
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shumbum said: ↑

Lin hurt his right wrist (main shooting side) in the 1st half. He was also probably starting to gas by the 2nd half with the game being a b2b. So, his 2nd half performance was understandable expecially given Chandler was given alot of the ball handling duties in the 2nd half...very likely because McFail was aware of Lin's right wrist.

Having said that, it doesn't mean I'm excusing McFail's typically crappy coaching style which I fully agree is terrible and often inexplicable. Why was PPat benched so long and why does this knucklehead insist on benching viable prospects on an admittedly young team full of rookies and sophomores while his supporters say he doesn't like "rookies"? D-Mo and Anderson don't even get a chance to play until halfway into the season and usually not even during garbage minutes.
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Now ask yourself this question, when did Parsons took over the ball handling duties? Is it immediately after Lin's "hurting his wrist", or is it immediately after McHale chew him out following his 2nd TO at the end of the 2nd Q? From what I saw, it was the latter.

#2176 mothman, Feb 14, 2013
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Well said.

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I guess the issue here is some lump whoever defends Lin by showing some unhappiness towards coaches as fanatic LOF, so called Justin Biber fan type. That's extremely arrogant. If you don't want people call you LOF just because you support Lin, then don't label other Lin supporters as 'paranoid' 'crazy' 'rubbish-talking' LOFs.

As I said in my post, there will always be some extreme ones which nobody should pay them attention. (Twitter world is a little different story because of the fangirls there) If I call remember correctly, there probably are no more than 10 or max 20 of them on this site. But there are plenty of Lin fans here. And not only Lin fans are complaining coaches, a lot of other vets are complaining coaches too albeit for many other reasons.

McHale/Sampson has its coaching style. You can like/agree with them or you don't have to. People here just expressing their opinions. Personally, I don't have problems that McHale yelling at Lin. But I do dislike Sampson's body language whenever Lin or other players make mistakes.

People always use the example of Pop and Parker. I don't buy it at all. There is only one Pop and he earned it to have any attitude towards any of his players. McHale and Sampson IMO haven't earned it to worth compare them to coach Pop. Even Pop is also careful/conscious of Parker's reaction. In one of the video, when he had to play Parker to a full second half, he asked Parker if he would be OK to do that. (I'll find the video if I got time)

There is a tough love, and there is D'Antoni's style of love. Personally I would rather have D'Antoni style of love: let him make and learn from mistakes by playing him not yelling all the time and pulling him out whenever he (it's not just Lin, any other young players that's on our roster, be it Parsons or D-Mo) makes a mistake. Lin is not the type that you need to whip his ass to make him better. He has enough self-motivation and self-consciousness to know what/if he did right or wrong. That's why my response to all the 'tough love' is: meh.
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Pls read my post again, I did not judge what Woodson thought. That's what Woodson said during that postgame interview! Do you have reading comprehension issue?

And since you made the point that Woodson did not take it out on Shump, I just asked if you have seen Woodson took it out Lin on his TOs? Again that was not a judgement.

What has the Knicks FO not willing to take on Lin's poison pill contract has to do with Woodson's trust in Lin when Lin was a knicks? You are not being logical.
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Totally agreed.

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GoRockets! said: ↑

I guess the issue here is some lump whoever defends Lin by showing some unhappiness towards coaches as fanatic LOF, so called Justin Biber fan type. That's extremely arrogant. If you don't want people call you LOF just because you support Lin, then don't label other Lin supporters as 'paranoid' 'crazy' 'rubbish-talking' LOFs.

As I said in my post, there will always be some extreme ones which nobody should pay them attention. (Twitter world is a little different story because of the fangirls there) If I call remember correctly, there probably are no more than 10 or max 20 of them on this site. But there are plenty of Lin fans here. And not only Lin fans are complaining coaches, a lot of other vets are complaining coaches too albeit for many other reasons.

McHale/Sampson has its coaching style. You can like/agree with them or you don't have to. People here just expressing their opinions. Personally, I don't have problems that McHale yelling at Lin. But I do dislike Sampson's body language whenever Lin or other players make mistakes.

People always use the example of Pop and Parker. I don't buy it at all. There is only one Pop and he earned it to have any attitude towards any of his players. McHale and Sampson IMO haven't earned it to worth compare them to coach Pop. Even Pop is also careful/conscious of Parker's reaction. In one of the video, when he had to play Parker to a full second half, he asked Parker if he would be OK to do that. (I'll find the video if I got time)

There is a tough love, and there is D'Antoni's style of love. Personally I would rather have D'Antoni style of love: let him make and learn from mistakes by playing him not yelling all the time and pulling him out whenever he (it's not just Lin, any other young players that's on our roster, be it Parsons or D-Mo) makes a mistake. Lin is not the type that you need to whip his ass to make him better. He has enough self-motivation and self-consciousness to know what/if he did right or wrong. That's why my response to all the 'tough love' is: meh.
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A coach earns the ability to yell at his players as soon as hes named coach. At any level of sports.

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knickstorm said: ↑

yea except in this case your parent put you up for adoption, then you got famous and they lured you back from your foster parents and continue to scream at you.
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Well said.

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