Percy Harvin requests trade... should we?

If not trade a 2nd Rounder.. Instead of drafting a receiver in the second trade it
for PErcy Harvin.. I doubt anyone gives them a 1st Rounder.
He did not have a great year last year so hes value is a low right now..

this is what the Texans needs. Ill be suprise if the Texans dont atleaset attempt this

 

Draft pick are over rated.Id take a rental over the potential of the likes of Posey, Brooks, Jones and Martin.


1: 26 (26): Whitney Mercilus, OLB, Illinois
3: 6 (68)*: DeVier Posey, WR, Ohio State
3: 13 (76)**: Brandon Brooks, G, Miami (Ohio)
4: 4 (99)**: Ben Jones, C, Georgia
4: 26 (121): Keshawn Martin, WR, Michigan State
4: 31 (126)*: Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska
5: 26 (161): Randy Bullock, K, Texas A&M
6: 26 (195): Nick Mondek, T, Purdue

 

Kevin Walter makes more than Harvin... I would immediately cut
Kevin Walter and give the Vikes a 2nd Rounder...

That would be sweet.. Andre Johnson and Harvin would be a good WR Core..

 

Percy would be incredible. I'd absolutely give up a 2nd or a 3rd / future 7th or something.

He'd help a lot of Schaub issues imo. The only downside is that he might leave because of Schaub underthrowing deep balls. But maybe he helps him start throwing deeper somehow.. Or maybe it forces mgmt's hand if someone isn't exploiting such an explosive weapon enough

But yes, fully on board with this. If it means letting Barwin walk, totally fine w/that

 

Brandon Marshall was dealt for 2 3's; I'd deal a 1 or 2, or 2 3's for him. You're guaranteed two years with him, assuming he plays well and behaves. I would wager he'd have a greater impact on this team in those two years than your 1 or 2 or 2 3's would.

Whoever mentioned the Patriots dealing for Harvin and letting Welker walk should be banned forever. You ruined my day......

 

Texans can't afford Marshall's contract. That's why Harvin would fit in because he's not making a lot of money next season.

Patriots have already said they are letting Welker go. It's a good move considering his age.

 

Keep in mind if a team trades for him, there going to resign him. If not they are going to get the same problems Minnesota had with Harvin which lead to 2 sideline blowups on the head coach and threatening to sit out for a new contract (this past offseason). While I have no doubt that a 2 or possibly a 3rd round pick is all it would take to get him, any team that trades for him is going to have to sign him long term if they want to avoid the same issues Minny had with him. Vincent Jackson got 10 mill per last offseason and I'm sure that's what Harvin's side would ask for, but I could see getting him signed at 8 mill per because his numbers aren't as big as Jackson's and he is not the same big red zone target Jackson is.

So now the real question you have to ask yourself is do you want him knowing it will probably take a 3 (which could end up being a 2) and a 8 million dollar cap hit?

 

Exactly; establishing the baseline. Brandon Marshall is worth 2 3s. You don't pay more for Percy Harvin.

 

Yeah, I agree draft picks are overrated. I'd give Minny almost anything they want as far as draft picks go. Within reason, of course.

Proven player > unknown commodity

Of course, with the Texans archaic "build through the draft" philosophy, this is exactly the kind of deal we would avoid. So I'm 100% sure we won't even inquire about it.

 

I hope this one strikes them differently. To me, this is Harden in some ways. You can't turn away youth and greatness..

 

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8935773/2013-nfl-offseason-potential-trade-suitors-percy-harvin

Take it for what it's worth. No Texans mention.

History can have a funny way of repeating itself. Back in the 2005 offseason, the Vikings finally had enough of superstar receiver Randy Moss and shipped him to Oakland in a trade that ultimately benefited neither side. This offseason, it seems that Minnesota might be heading in the same direction with Percy Harvin, as rumors have surfaced that the Vikings may try to trade their Swiss army knife on offense.

Harvin might be the most explosive player in football with the ball in his hands. He missed the last seven weeks of the season because of injury, but the incredible finish to the season from Adrian Peterson has left many forgetting already that it was Harvin, not Peterson, who was garnering talk of MVP over the first half of the season. At that time, everything that Minnesota did on offense flowed through the versatile receiver.

Despite missing the final seven games of the season, Harvin led the league in missed tackles forced by a non-running back with 22. That is five more than the next-best receiver, Brandon Marshall, who had 56 additional receptions on which to make people miss. That statistic also doesn't count the five additional misses Harvin forced when running the football lined up in the backfield or the damage he did as a return man.

As a return man, Harvin was a devastating weapon, scoring a touchdown and averaging more than 35 yards each time he ran it back. As a receiver, only Philadelphia's Jason Avant, who didn't drop a ball all season, had a better drop rate. In 81 targets through nine games, Harvin dropped just one pass, or 1.59 percent of the catchable balls thrown his way. Compared to other high-volume underneath targets like Wes Welker (11.28 percent), Davone Bess (11.59 percent), Dexter McCluster (11.86 percent) or Victor Cruz (12.24 percent), Harvin was a far more reliable target.

But just like Moss all those years ago, Harvin comes with baggage, and you have to buy into more than just his obvious talent and playmaking ability. Tensions between him and the Vikings have brewed for a while, and with his contract expiring after the 2013 season, a trade market may be emerging.

Even if Harvin brings more than just mercurial talent, a queue of teams should try to make a trade, so let's look at a few of the likeliest suitors:


New England Patriots

Patriots coach Bill Belichick is said to be a huge Harvin admirer, and the team is reluctant to allocate big money to Welker, an aging player who likely wouldn't have the same value outside New England that he does in Foxboro. The answer might be to spend some of that money on a player who is younger, has better hands and is more explosive, even if he doesn't have quite the same veteran savvy and nuanced route-running. The Patriots' receiving corps certainly could use the injection of pace and youth it would get from Harvin, and along with their stable of tight ends, the Pats would have plenty of options to distribute the football in their ever-evolving offense. Lastly, the Patriots have one of the league's healthiest salary-cap situations, with just a little more than $102 million committed in 2013.

San Francisco 49ers

The 49ers have much ammunition in terms of draft picks, having stockpiled them with trades in last year's draft. The 49ers have additional selections in the third, fifth, sixth and seventh rounds, giving them plenty of flexibility to put together an acceptable package for the Vikings. On top of that, the 49ers certainly could use a player of Harvin's ability, struggling at times for explosive plays this season with only really Michael Crabtree able to consistently separate. The myriad ways Harvin's versatility could be used inside the creative option looks the 49ers run is particularly mouth-watering. Lastly, Moss became close with Harvin during his brief second stint in Minnesota, so if the 49ers hold on to him for another season, they might hope to use him to work with the younger receiver.

Atlanta Falcons

For the past few seasons, the Falcons have been all about surrounding Matt Ryan with weapons to make the offense even better. With Tony Gonzalez about to hang it up, the team suddenly has a gaping hole in the middle of the field and underneath the defense. Harry Douglas hasn't showed he can operate consistently in that area, but Harvin certainly has. Despite the aggressive moves they have made in the past, the Falcons are still in a healthy salary-cap situation and have more than enough to get a contract done with Harvin. Roddy White, Julio Jones and Harvin would be a fearsome trio.

Other possibilities

Jacksonville Jaguars: It's a new regime with plenty of cap room and one final shot for quarterback Blaine Gabbert. If the Jaguars want Gabbert to succeed, they could give him a legitimate stud to help in the offense and at least give him a fighting chance to swim rather than sink this season.

Miami Dolphins: This team has been crying out for receiver help for years. With a sophomore quarterback, Ryan Tannehill, who flashed a lot of talent as a rookie, Harvin's dynamic play could only help his development.

Kansas City Chiefs: The Chiefs don't have the healthiest of salary-cap situations, but Harvin fits the Andy Reid of small, precise and sudden receivers and could help out whoever lines up under center for them opening day.

The bottom line

Teams rarely trade a player of transcendent talent like Harvin, and when they do, you know there are issues to be resolved. A new contract with the Vikings would go some way toward appeasing him, but Harvin would benefit from a strong locker room and leadership. If another team can provide that and grab him for a second-round pick, it might have one of the steals of the decade.

 

Draft pick plus free agent> traded player

Draft picks are the cheap labor guys that allow a team to sign free agents.

 

That said, the Texans may have a little more wiggle room than usual and be able to make a trade for someone like Percy. I am generally very anti-trade of picks, but I would still not trade too high a pick for him.

 

If the Texans dont strike a WR in Free agent or via Trade they will draft a WR and more and likely in the 2nd Round..

Who do you suggest will be a better player than Harvin in that spot to help this Season..?

Harvin is making slightly under a million this year? This will not screw with our
cap at all this year... The difficult part is if we can sign him to a long term year if he
has a good season.

Now I think if we restrocture some players and cut Kevin Walter we might be able
to do something... (I do think the Team that trades for him will have leverage on him, since he did not have a great year this year)

I really do think that Draft picks are overated... I mean yes you can hit gold on some picks, but if a player of HArvins caliber is offered to you for a 2nd rounder you better take it....

 

he won't play without an extension. You can't just have him for this year for cheap and only sign him if he has a good season. Must sign immediately if you trade for him

 

Uncle Bob and Kubiak won't target him, because even though it makes perfect sense player-wise, Percy Harvin is known as questionable behavior-wise and is not "Texans material".

 

I don't think he has had MAJOR issues to make him a Randy Moss or Ochocinco or TO level problem child. I agree that they have issues getting hotheads on this team, but I really think they'll consider him from that angle and only have to worry about salary issues + draft picks that they love so dearly

(my opinion on those guys also...no insight to their thinking of course)

 

He only has one year left on his rookie contract of 2.9 million, unless Rick feels that we could keep him long term 3-4 year extension the more I think about it I don't see us doing this. Based off recent transactions (Schaub extension, Arian's extension, Andre's contract, JJO's) They feel our time is the next 3-4 years. They're not going to sell out the team for one season.

I think it's worth the gamble to get em 7-8 million for 4 years would do the trick imo.