It would be impossible to compare because there is not one top Muslim leader that governs the whole Islamic world. A leader in the middle east might have a different point of view than ones in the western world. I despise the current and past actions of the pope. That amount of power each pope has, makes my blood boil, I can melt gold with it.
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Leave it to atw to bring up Muslims/Islam in a thread about the pope's resignation.... Freaking troll
Don't you guys bring up alleged child abuse and crusades in just about any thread talking about Islamist problems? Wait - yes, you do. My question is valid: There are plenty of posters who get really, really angry at the Pope, but never say a word about Fatwas issuing a call for murder, child abuse in Islamic madrassahs, etc. etc. etc.
Western leaders (left and right) have regularly had close ties with brutal dictators of other countries - I'm not sure why this particular one would surprise you?
The Pope represents the official stance of an organization that claims to represent about 1 billion people. The random nameless Fatwa-issuer represents... no one, or maybe his little individual Mosque. Why would you expect people to view them equally? It's like putting the Pope at the same level as a local Priest.
As I already explained in my previous post - because this particular lady takes pride in always being morally outraged at everyone and everything, among others, the Pope. To high-five a representative of a murderous regime who is also personally responsible for hundreds of murders seems very hypocritical. But that is characteristic of the whole attitude of the left: Always quick to scream bloody murder at the Catholic church and Israel, but pretty much silent or tacitly approving of much of human rights abuse in the Muslim world.
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This is a convenient excuse of leftists like yourself. Did Ayatollah Khomeini represent "his little individual mosque" when he issued his death sentence fatwa against Salman Rushdie? Certainly not. And under the current Iranian regime, that fatwa still stands. Minor - you tried - and you failed.
People, STOP feeding the troll and letting him direct the narrative to his own personal agenda. If you wanna b**** about Islam, go start your own thread and stop hijacking this one. Back on topic, the Pope retires, first time it's happened in 600 years, and we're supposed to believe it's just because he's "getting old"? What, did none of the other Popes for the last 6 centuries get old? I'm not buying it. There's something else at play here. Either health-related, or legal-issues, or scandal, or something. But I don't believe he would just turn in his two weeks notice out of the blue (and the shocked reactions from all the higher-ups shows this was, indeed, out of the blue).
This is silly. Do other politicians not show moral outrage over mass murder and brutal dictatorship? Yet, we are more than happy to be friends with those very people when they fulfill some of our interests (oil, etc). Reagan and Carter - two opposite ends of the ideological spectrum - both preached morality in different ways and yet were thrilled to be friends with extraordinarily disgusting and evil people. Real-politik, practiced my most western countries, is hypocritical by nature: the enemy of our enemy is our friend by default.
I'm pretty sure the B-Bob and the west in general had/has a much bigger problem with Khomeini and Iran than they do with the Pope. You pretty much blew up your own argument.
I saw more anger by a leftist (not by B-Bob, I just asked B-Bob the question since he posted) in Batman Jones' thread about the Pope in this forum than in any Islam-related thread (in those, the leftist anger is usually just directed at me). You don't see a poster wishing a real-life person to be raped and tortured to death (like Batman Jones unapologetically did) very often. I also did not see you quickly trying to post your usual drivel to contradict these statements - whereas you often quickly (and unsuccessfully every single time) try to make posts to contradict me when I criticize Islamist excesses.
Kid, I am not b****ing about Islam, I am b****ing about the hypocrisy by leftists, some of whom hope the Pope gets raped and tortured to death, but remain completely silent or tacitly approving when atrocities are committed in the name of Islam, by leaders of Islam (alternatively, they invoke the "these are not leaders, there is no Pope in Islam" defense, like Minor did on this thread). I have seen the Pope in person about a year and a half or so ago. He is a very, very old man, who might have signs of age-related dementia. His press release reads like he is aware of this. What if he has Alzheimer, and just wants to save himself from fading away in the public limelight? No need for conspiracy theories there, really.
Probably because those people don't share your obsession with Islam. You simply see what you want to see. You should check out some 9/11 or Bin Laden threads to see what "leftists" think about him. That's certainly true. I don't find him polluting nearly as many threads as you do, so he doesn't annoy me nearly enough to bother to comment on. Your method of measuring of dislike/like of something based on number of posts about a topic is weird. Since you criticize leftists far more than Hitler or other modern brutal dictators, should I assume you have a bigger problem with the left than Hitler?
Hitler is dead. I have repeatedly posted that Hitler was the most vile individual to ever live. I don't think I have said that about any leftist. You try again - you lose again.
The guy who quit 600 years ago did so to end a schism in the church. The guy previous to that quit to become a hermit. Something is definitely up with Ratzinger.
Back to the Pope - I didn't really agree with much of his stance on anything, but I respect his decision to step down. There is no need to throw stones at someone who is voluntarily giving up his post. And there is especially no need to wish for him to be raped and tortured to death.
