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At what point did learning in school become just about making the grade?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Caltex2, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. rage

    rage Member

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    I don't know which school district you refer to but at my D's.: Regular Geometry counts for 5, PreAP/ GT Geometry counts for 6. Calculus counts for 6.
    It's simple, the harder classes count for more points.
    Hence the reason to reward the students who take the harder classes.
     
  2. htownrox1

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    I'm 20 and I honestly have no idea what to do. I'm taking some classes right now at hcc but they're just the basics. I was thinking of looking into broadcasting... The honest truth is that I hate school, always have. But the thing is, I've been told throughout my life that you can't be successful without a college degree... You won't make good money... Blah blah.

    I'd like to go to school very minimally if I have to.

    Clutchfans help!!!
     
  3. fallenphoenix

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    i imagine you'd at least need a degree in communications if you want to be a broadcaster
     
  4. htownrox1

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    Well I was looking into being a broadcast technician. They have certificate programs and 2 year programs.
     
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    Definitely look into those programs, because they provide a much more direct route to what you're looking for than traditional 4-year colleges.
     
  6. JunkyardDwg

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    Broadcasting is definitely more about who you know and your experience than the piece of paper you get at a college. I have a degree in it, and the only reason I found work in the field was because I was standing in the right place at the right time. Broadcast journalism, a degree would probably help. But behind the scenes, I don't think as much.
     
  7. Caltex2

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    Come up with a plan and just take your time. You may even be able to get on with some company that will reimburse your college tuition, that's what I'm about to ask for at mine.

    But, including summer school, I'd just take 1-3 classes a semester so you could just knock out that degree that everyone thinks is supposedly so qualifying while leaving you enough time to work at minimize the amount of debt that piles up (don't forget scholarships). You could start a blog and/or post Youtube videos of your work so potential employers can have an easily accessible example of your work by the time you're done with school.

    If a minority, I'd go to, for example, the National Association of Black Journalists convention each year and join the local chapter. Heck, if white I'd go to the conevtion anyways because you could still get your work out there at the job fair.

    There are many ways to be successful without being stressed out and paying an arm and a led while in college. And if you work hard enough and do a good enough job on your Youtube venture, you may be able to be picked up without getting that increasingly worthless piece of paper.
     
  8. Caltex2

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    You know when Michael Irvin is getting jobs in broadcasting it isn't about what you know but who. That's why, at 20, I'd go to these major conventions and let one of these big shots take you under their wing.
     
  9. meh

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    So if it's not about testing, what should it be about? I certainly understand the downside of studying for test. I myself have done this ever since middle school when I realized how much I can slack off if I just crammed night before the tests. But TBH if school was much less rigid, much less test based, I'd have found even more ways to get around the system where I don't even bother cramming.

    And obviously do this with the real life restrictions due to low public school funding, bureaucracy necessary to run schools, and the need to balance the smart, fast learning students with the lesser students who struggle just to keep up with class.
     
  10. body slam

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    For me when learning became about just getting by is when the teachers stopped caring about their jobs. Looking back the areas I did good I had great teachers that had a passion for teaching. The areas I slacked off I had teachers that were just going through the motions. Teaching is just like every job you have some that love there job and are there to give 110% precent every day. While others just there to get a check.
     
  11. cml750

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    Teaching these days is about teaching kids to learn how to pass the standardized test rather than teaching them reading, writing and arithmetic. Sad but true. Used to be you could pass the test based on what you learned in school rather than the teachers concentrating on teaching how to pass the test. I have been blessed with some very bright children. My son. a college freshman, got a heck of an academic scholarship and my daughter, a sophomore is currently second in her class (not to mention she already has a $20,000 dollar scholarship from the CCA STAR fishing tournament for catching the largest Gafftop in the state in the teen division). I have always taken time to discuss what they learn at school and have been appalled that teachers take so much time trying to emphasize the test.
     
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  12. Rocket River

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    Schools are a symptom of the greater issue
    LIFE has become about making money and getting a 'good job'
    Becoming a good earner/worker . . . everything else is irrelevent
    Life is about the test now

    Rocket River
     
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    I will also add that in my conversations with other parents of school children, I am shocked at how little time some parents devote to their children and school. Taking time to actually see what they are learning in school, checking their homework, visiting with teachers whenever the opportunity presents itself, seeing them when they participate in extracurricular activities etc.... Lack of parental involvement may be the biggest problem with schools these days. A few weeks ago we were in the Houston area for a school vasity soccer tournament. We are from the Beaumont area and were playing a local Houston team. There was not a single parent from the more local team there to see children play on a Friday night (truly sad). Our team had at least 3/4 of the parents there supporting the team.
     
  14. Caltex2

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    If a teacher was strict in grading and it was in essay style or something similar, you wouldn't be able to get around the system short of looking at the paper of the person next to you, assuming they know what they're writing.

    It's a tough road to hoe but more should be expected of students, especially at a younger age before they're lost to the teenage pressure which many times get them to dropout of school.
     

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