funny how now you can't even tell if someone is joking or dead serious in their analysis around here anymore. sadly I'd have to guess this one was serious
Wow. It's like we watched 2 different games. Jeremy was getting trapped whenever Miami had a chance to send the extra man to surprise him from his blindside and they did it at every opportunity no matter where he was on the court. Miami's defenders are also very athletic and long and that's hard to deal with when they already got the jump on you. Jeremy looked like he had a hard time dealing with that. I'm not surprised that the team went to Harden in the 2nd half. He's bigger and stronger and thrives on initiating contact to draw a foul. It's tougher to pressure a guy like that.
Dude, so your saying that if you play in the NBA tomorrow against Miami , Lebron will double team you? I think not...
Sry wrong quote to reply. Dude, so your saying that if you play in the NBA tomorrow against Miami , Lebron will double team you? I think not...
Lin's good game against GSW made Miami doubling/trapping him all game long, and it sets up Harden's big game. Then in last few minutes they decided to do the same thing to Harden. It's good for Lin's growth. What Miami was doing is the ultimate respect to his ability. Basically they are trying to let anybody else beat them except Lin. Same logic how Blazers were doubling Yao in the playoff series. The earlier a player faces such kind of defense, the better for his future development IMO.
Once Lin shoots better consistently, it'll open up his game and he'll match or exceed his Linsanity performance.
Deron Williams 2005-Year 1- 10.8 ppg, 4.5 apg, 2.4 rpg, 0.8 spg 2006-Year 2- 16.2 ppg, 9.3 apg, 3.3 rpg, 1.0 spg 2007-Year 3- 18.8 ppg, 10.5 apg, 3.0 rpg, 1.1 spg Chris Paul 2005-Year 1- 16.1 ppg, 7.8 apg, 5.1 rpg, 2.2 spg 2006-Year 2- 17.3 ppg, 8.9 apg, 4.4 rpg, 1.8 spg 2007-Year 3- 21.1 ppg, 11.6 apg, 4.0 rpg, 2.7 spg Steve Nash 1996-Year 1- 3.3 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.0 rpg, 0.3 spg 1997-Year 2- 9.1 ppg, 3.4 apg, 2.1 rpg, 0.8 spg 1998-Year 3- 7.9 ppg, 5.5 apg, 2.9 rpg, 0.9 spg 1999-Year 4- 8.6 ppg, 4.9 apg, 2.2 rpg, 0.7 spg 2000-Year 5- 15.6 ppg, 7.3 apg, 3.2 rpg, 1.0 spg 2001-Year 6- 17.9 ppg, 7.7 apg, 3.1 rpg, 0.6 spg 2006-Year 11-18.6 ppg, 11.6 apg, 3.5 rpg, 0.8 spg Goran Dragic 2011-Year 6- 11.7 ppg, 5.3 apg, 2.5 rpg, 1.3 spg 2012-Year 7- 14.2 ppg, 6.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.4 spg Jeremy Lin 2011-Year 2- 14.6 ppg, 6.2 apg, 3.1 rpg, 1.6 spg 2012-Year 3- 12.5 ppg, 6.1 apg, 3.6 rpg, 2.0 spg I'm excluding Jeremy's Year 1, because he sat on the bench the whole year at Golden State and didn't get to play. Jeremy only played 1/4th of a season last year with the Knicks, and is currently 1/2 way thru his current season with the Rockets. So I combined Year 2&3 and averaged. Which gives us his REAL ROOKIE SEASON stats: 13.5 ppg, 6.1 apg, 3.35 rpg, 1.8 spg So to compare: Deron Williams - Year 2- 16.2 ppg, 9.3 apg, 3.3 rpg, 1.0 spg Chris Paul - Year 1- 16.1 ppg, 7.8 apg, 5.1 rpg, 2.2 spg Steve Nash - Year 5- 15.6 ppg, 7.3 apg, 3.2 rpg, 1.0 spg Goran Dragic - Year 7- 14.2 ppg, 6.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.4 spg Baron Davis - Year 2- 13.8 ppg, 7.3 apg, 5.0 rpg, 2.1 spg Jeremy Lin - Year 1- 13.5 ppg, 6.1 apg, 3.3 rpg, 1.8 spg -Jeremy's first season so far is superior to that of Deron Williams. -Steve nash took 5 seasons before he had a season as good as Jeremy's real rookie season. -Goran Dragic took 7 seasons before he had a season as good as Jeremy's real rookie season. -Chris Paul is more talented than Jeremy Lin. But then Chris Paul is THE #1 Point Guard in the NBA! Looking at Jeremy's stats, I think what the Houston Rockets have is a young Baron Davis! Baron Davis 2000-Year 2- 13.8 ppg, 7.3 apg, 5.0 rpg, 2.1 spg 2001-Year 3- 18.1 ppg, 8.5 apg, 4.3 rpg, 2.1 spg 2002-Year 4- 17.1 ppg, 6.4 apg, 3.7 rpg, 1.8 spg 2003-Year 5- 22.9 ppg, 7.5 apg, 4.3 rpg, 2.4 spg I think if given the right opportunities and enough game time, I think Lin can definitely be an elite point guard within a season or 2 tops. I can definitely see All-Star caliber within 2 seasons as well. So we've got Harden for 4 more years. We've got Lin for at least 3 more years. I figure if we keep Asik and Parsons and Patterson, I think we could be a title contender within 2 years. What do you all think?
Nice post Comic Book Nerd! I think you're right that Lin's stats will only get better as he gains more experience. PG is a lot like playing QB in football - it takes time. There are a few things however that could hamper his development like injuries and coaching....
I wonder if having similar numbers as the players you have mentioned actually mean anything. Seems like you can find a lot of rookie pgs who put up similar or better numbers. Maybe I'm wrong on that but two at the top of my head would be Damiem Lillard and Greivis Vásquez.
PG's in the league now are unusually talented. If Lillard wins rookie of the year he will be the 4th point guard in the last 5 years to win it. So on average I would say the numbers mentioned do mean something.
First of all, Lin is not a rookie. Spending time in training camp, the DLeague, and watching on the bench makes a player better. Playing 30 games and then get injured doesn't mean the 30 game season doesn't exist. If you want to say Lin should count as a 2nd year player that was a 4-year college player? Sure, I can go with that. But the idea that he's a rookie is stupid. But whatever. I'll give you some young players of similar playing experience and age as Lin. Jeff Teague(23): 13.6/2.6/5.3/1.6 Darren Collison(23): 13.2/2.8/5.1/1.1 Raymond Felton(22): 14.0/3.4/7.0/1.5 Mind you, these are just some random mediocre PG that I came up with in the NBA, and looked up their stats. Not much different from Lin. You know what makes CP3, DWill, and ever other star PG great? They improve their game each and every year. A lot of talented players come into the NBA every year. Most of them don't develop beyond rotation players. Only a select few raise their game enough to become stars. Lin needs to show that improvement if he wants to be compared to the top players.
Didn't even realize he wasn't. Seems like he popped out of no where and started to put up impressive stats. Anyways I wonder how many pgs that were allow to start from say the time of Steve Nash, and all the way up to now have posted similar numbers? Just wondering if those numbers have any real meaning.
