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Coincidence or Not?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Feb 7, 2013.

  1. giddyup

    giddyup Member

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    I've never been accused of starting the most popular threads but who gives a durn! Tried over-turning this "analysis" via Snopes or Google but unsuccessful. If anyone can, let me know and I'll erase the content...

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    Why is it that none of the disturbed and evil men, who steal guns, then go and kill movie-goers and children in school, has ever been identified as a conservative or NRA member?

    The answer is hitting you right in the face, as to what we need to get rid of!

    1. Ft. Hood~~~ Democrat

    2. Columbine ~~~ Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals

    3. Virginia Tech ~~~ Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff

    4. Colorado Theater ~~~ staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant; progressive liberal

    5. Connecticut School Shooter- ~~~ Registered Democrat; hated Christians and his Republican mother.

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  2. RedRedemption

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    Of course this is all a conspiracy. :rolleyes:
    You realize there are gun-loving liberals and gun-hating conservatives right?
    The world is not so black and white.

    Occam's Razor. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the most probable one. These people were crazy.
     
  3. giddyup

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    Who said anything about a conspiracy? You.

    Aren't the gun-toting right-wingers the ones who are dangerous and holding us back?

    BTW, if this is true why has it never been publicized? Is it not important or just unflattering?!
     
  4. RedRedemption

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    Because political affiliation has little significance when dealing with crazy people. Its about as stupid as the movies and video games spurring gun violence argument. All you crazy gun-nuts are just looking for something to shift the blame from firearms.
     
  5. Haymitch

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    Anyone who doesn't hold inanimate objects responsible for the acts of individuals is indeed crazy.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. CometsWin

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    Timothy McVeigh, registered Republican gun nut and the most deadly American terrorist in history.

    McVeigh was a registered Republican when he lived in Buffalo, New York in the 1980s, and had a membership in the National Rifle Association while in the military,[84] but voted for Libertarian Party candidate, Harry Browne, in the 1996 presidential elections.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
     
  7. plcmts17

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    http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth


    1. Nidal Hasan (the Ft. Hood shooter) lived in either Virginia (his state of residence prior to being sent to Ft. Hood) or Texas, neither of which has partisan registration. Therefore the claim that he was a "registered Democrat" is false. I do not know if he voted or how he voted, but I do know that unless he was registered in a state in which he did not reside, that the claim that he is a registered Democrat is FALSE.

    2. Since Virginia does not have partisan registration there is also no way to tell whether Seung-Hui Cho was a Democrat, but again because there is no partisan registration in the state we can say that the claim that he is a registered Democrat is FALSE. (Update: A more obvious point is that Cho was a resident alien, not a US citizen, so he was not eligible to vote in the US)

    3. The allegation that James Holmes was registered Democrat was based on a Breitbart blogger Joel B. Pollack, who found voter registration records for a DIFFERENT James Holmes who was about the same age. Alex Jones’ Infowars and other right-wing websites then dutifully repeated the lie without verifying it. It was later determined that the Colorado Theater Shooter James Holmes was NOT registered to vote, as evidenced by this retraction: {Newly-released information on the suspect’s birthdate (which, as indicated in our initial report, was a slight mismatch), combined with new details Breitbart News has obtained about the suspect’s likely addresses, together suggest that the suspect may, in fact, not have been registered to vote.}. However, most of right-wing media continued to promote the lie without printing Breitbart sites retraction. The claim that James Holmes was a registered Democrat is FALSE.

    4. The claim that Adama Lanza is a registered Democrat has been suggested based not on any evidence that he was registered as one, but on the rather dubious claim that because Connecticut has almost 2 to 1 Democratic registration over Republicans, he was probably a Democrat. (Claim: "Adam Lanza, NewtownConn murderer. Registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by about a 2-1 ratio in Connecticut. The odds are therefore that the Lanza family are (sic) Democrats.") This of course is a bogus argument to begin with, but even if we were to make the claim that a mass shooter’s political affiliation must be the same as the majority of the people in his area, we can debunk this foolish idea by taking this shoddy analysis down to the local level. Yes, Connecticut voted for Barack Obama, BUT the city of Newtown voted for Mitt Romney. If we look at the results we find that Mitt Romney defeated Barack Obama in Newtown by 7451-6784 votes or 51.7 percent to 47 percent. Republican Senate candidate and Tea Party favorite Linda McMahon carried the city over Democrat Chris Murphy by an even larger margin. Add in the other information we have that Lanza’s mother was a “doomsday prepper” and a home schooler in a Republican-leaning city and we can pretty well dispense with the erroneous assumption that Lanza must have been a Democrat (UPDATE: According to at least one media source, Nancy Lanza was a registered Republican. The source does not provide a link, but the author of this article is seeking further confirmation). We can therefore claim that with no evidence to support the claim, the assertion that Lanza was a Democrat is not demonstrated and that in the absence of any evidence it is likely FALSE.

    5. Klebold and Harris of course were not old enough to vote and they had no apparent political affiliation. Allegations that they came from families of Democrats or liberal progressives appear to have no sources to substantiate those claims. What little ideology the boys demonstrated owed mostly to an admiration for Timothy McVeigh not Ted Kennedy. Harris’ father was a retired Air Force pilot and Eric Harris wanted to join the Marine Corps. The boys lived in Littleton, Colorado a relatively conservative and affluent suburb of Denver. The claim that their parents were Democrats is UNSUBSTANTIATED. Any suggestion that the two boys were Democrats is demonstrably FALSE.
     
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  8. QdoubleA

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    And there we have it. Erase the thread as promised.
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Giddy gets his news from Facebook and chain emails so these threads are a common thing with him.
     
  10. Commodore

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    playing the guilt by association card with murderers is contemptible

    both sides do it
     
  11. plcmts17

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    How many people from the left on this board start a thread about it?
     
  12. Kam

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    Fwd: Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:


    Heard bill gates is going to pay me millions for forwarding emails.


    Linda McMahon!!!
     
  13. Dairy Ashford

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    Because conservatives already release their anger by exploiting and discriminating against the poor, dark and female.
     
  14. Harrisment

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    Lol this is pathetic. Looks like a straight copy/paste off of some nut job's Facebook timeline. How embarrassing.
     
  15. giddyup

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    These killers are all male and mostly white.
     
  16. giddyup

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    Oh, hell no. I've altered some of the comments as the small bit of evidence provided might justify. We'll see if more comes in.
     
  17. giddyup

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    No. It was authored by a soldier somewhere and taken off a blog I believe. BTW, have you yet received the copy of the Declaration of Independence that is going around the internet?
     
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  18. giddyup

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    All the time. Have you not read any of the sexual impropriety-party of Family Values ridiculing threads? That's just one example.

    This is pointing up an irony not a conspiracy.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    Another thread by giddy goes down in flames. How many threads that are BS will someone have to start or chime in on before realizing that more than likely this kind of crap, is false.

    Well here is another case to add to the pile.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    This is one case where I do agree that both sides are guilty of doing it.
     

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