How many extra games could the Rockets have won so far?

Let's see what happens after the deadline.

 

Well, you are focusing on rotations and other situations that you know nothing about. What factors into the coaching decisions are things that you do not know and will never know. Defensive match ups, how a player is feeling at the time, the intent of the next offensive strategy, etc. Speculating about unknowable's is always counter productive. Develop a reasonable standard for judging a coaching staff, or just use mine.

 

I think that maybe we should ask another question first and that is how many games would we have won with another coach period.

The system which KM implemented has been good enough for us to accumulate 27 wins with a tough schedule, well above may people's expectations.

Maybe we could have won a few more maybe not. This is conjecture, however, would we have won 27 with a different coach who would have implemented a different system?

I don't post much but read the board religiously every day so please don't torch me...

This team is young and is doing well and i don't think that they have outgrown this coach yet. They need to grow, be tougher on defense, have more discipline, get experience and execute better down the stretch. Once they can do this, then maybe we can revisit the coaching issue if need be.

Peace...

 

we should already have 30 wins. =(

 

I LOVE this poll. Not so much for the specific question but for the way the votes are distributed.

Check out who voted for each section. There's a nice distribution from, I don't know, conservatism and high basketball knowledge at one end to new fan and "irrational exuberance" at the other end. I can't remember seeing a poll where the votes spread out so nicely.

 

I am comfortable with my company.

 

to see a coach is good in game or not, all you need to do is to look at team's record of close game (I'd say 5 points or less difference in final 2 min). I think Rockets mostly blow out the other team or get blown out so there are not many sample size but from my memory, we always, I mean always lose close games. Team ball suddenly stopped and line up (this really frustrates me) suddenly got shorter. Win/loss in close game should be 50/50 without any coaching input. I don't have the list but I'm sure some stat heads can give us the number to show how bad McHale's substitution and play execution are.

 

With all due respect to the OP, the questions this thread asks are EXTREMELY loaded, and unfair to be asking in the first place. This thread along with the "Fire McHale" thread have set me off once, and its about to happen again.

If you are going to ask this question, you MUST put the complete body of work into perspective. Im not saying that McHale has made 100% correct substitutions, and playcalling, but neither has any coach this year in the NBA.

Do you have any idea how flamed Coach Eric Spo gets when he continues to go with a small ball lineup or plays Lebron at the 4 late in games by their fans? How many fans in Miami have wanted him gone at certain times in the past 3 years? Even though Coach Spo isn't necessarily a perfect coach, fans need to wake up and realize that its far from a perfect game, and sometimes coaches are going to make a call to do something that doesnt work out, or (HINT, HINT) you have a young team that might not execute a play correctly that cost the team possessions and sometimes wins.

Its important to know that despite what the armchair GM's(fans) think, coaches in the NBA will be judged on their finished product. Which is wins, and player development.

If you are judging McHale in that aspect as you should, he's doing very, very well, and the wins that his coaching staff has contributed to SIGNIFICANTLY outweight any controversial losses the Rockets have had because they decided to close out a ball game with James Anderson instead of Chandler Parsons one night.

Most of the outcry on here for McHale's supposive mishaps in substitutions are purely opinion and open for for questionable debate. So lets just get that straight even though 95% of the posters on here will not agree with me simply because.... well they just dont like McHale as a person. Thats fine, but people need to at least admit that this is the reason why they want him fired, and stop trying to find fault in him "Holding the Team Back."

And for those making statements such as "They Should Be a 30 Win Team Right Now" .... just stop. You are essentially saying that this SHOULD BE a 50+ win team by the playoffs. You MUST be joking me. You think the youngest team in the league, with 1 all star, and 4 first year starters in their rotation should win 50+ games in a dominant and incredibly deep super conference???... Are you seriously taking crazy pills or something???

-Look, the fact is the Rockets are developing their players very nicely, overachieving in the win column significantly, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, setting themselves up nicely to be a contending team in 2 or 3 years for close to a decade afterwards. Is that late game substitution in a game the Rockets probably have no business winning in the first place really making that much of a difference in the longrun to this team??? Its time to wake the F up guys.

So no I do not think McHale's coaching has negatively impacted the teams win's this year. If anything the positives that have come through player development, work by the front office to take quality bets on players that will develop this well, and the position the Rockets coaches have put the players in to be successful have SIGNIFICANTLY outweighed any questionable substition or play that didn't work out as well as planned late in games that might or might not have got the team closer to getting one or two more wins.

 

I totally agree with you. It's just amazing how people think its so easy to win in the NBA. If the coach had subbed this or that player it would have changed the outcome of the game....

EVERYBODY should know that this team is not currently built to make a playoff run. Its a young team that is being built. Every game we win is a bonus. After we won 5 in a row earlier in the year, people got it in their heads that we were now a contender. Let's keep it real people.

 

The McFail bandwagon is heavily populated by the 2K12 crowd. They have little understanding of basketball besides what goes up on the scoreboard. Their analyses are at best simplistic first order interpretations of what is an extremely complex sport. They are incapable of preforming fact based analysis, and instead vent their frustrations with emotion driven posts. It is all quite old and tiring.

 

Repped.

And a little off topic. For those of you who like to call him McFail, would you please stop? I mean he's the Rox head coach after all. You guys are so sensitive to the thread title "xxx is a joke", yet don't hesitate to call derogative names to the head coach. Talk about double standard. You don't like him, we get it. But show some respect to the head coach at least.

 

It is not something you can "think" of, it is what you "believe".

 

When someone is as wrong as you are there can be no debate. From our viewpoint how do you debate with someone who declares the sky is green?

And we do not accept McHale without question, but have sufficient knowledge to understand that the difference in game coaching between best and the worst is 4 games. And McHale is by far from the worst. Unknowledgeable NBA fans put much to much stock in a coaches in game influence. For lack of a better word it is just ignorance.

And I would like to point out that you are just to lazy to do any research on the matter.

 

I don't doubt McHale is good coach and mentor off the court. On the court, coach’s plays might not get executed well because it’s the player who’s on the court. But coach has the power on rotation and time out. People who question McHale’s ability always give example. I know hindsight is 50/50. But how do you improve when you don’t look back in history and adjust mistakes. McHale homers like yourself don't give anything to back up your argument. Coach is overrated and like you said, coach has little control on players executions so why do you assume McHale is better coach than any of clutch fans. Let me just say this. To be a NBA coach, connection is a must. Like it or not, there are more than qualified average Joe out there who just don’t have the opportunity to be a coach.

 

I mean McHale is in a much better position to know who is the better player and who is the more appropriate player for a particular game situation. I know talking about tactics is part of fandom, but it seems to me ridiculous hubris for internet coaches to go about evaluating real professional coaches on the basis of their rotations. Probably a better job could conceivably be done, since McHale isn't perfect, but I seriously doubt your ability to identify what that looks like.

 

The problem here and pretty much every thread is not about basketball.

It is about territory, "true rocket fans" feel their backyard being invaded by LOF.