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How many extra games could the Rockets have won so far?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Ultimate6thMan, Feb 6, 2013.

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How many extra wins with better substitutions and rotations?

  1. None - we are just a young team and McHale always makes the best decisions.

    16.9%
  2. 1 - even with better substitutions and rotations, we would still lose

    7.4%
  3. 2 - we would be doing better

    7.0%
  4. 3 - Can you name them?

    11.2%
  5. 4 - Which games do you think we would have won?

    10.7%
  6. 5 - Our coach has really hurt our team.

    16.5%
  7. 6 - The coach hurts our team more than the players ability

    5.4%
  8. 7 - We are much better than our record.

    5.4%
  9. 8 - McHale is clueless

    6.6%
  10. 9 or more - FIRE MCFAIL

    12.8%
  1. roxallways

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    The game that comes to mind that I feel McHale rotations legitimately cost the Rox the game was the last game against Denver. He killed Rox momentum and their chances in that game to win with bad rotation.That's the most upset I've been with his coaching since he's been here after that game. Other than that game, for the most part Rox didn't make enough plays down stretch, which is how most teams lose games. Also REBOUNDING, or lack thereof by our bigs not named Asik, killed Rox in many of those games as well.
     
  2. dfoolz

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    We are Rockets........we should win them all. F the spurs they are beneath us.
     
  3. Scolalist

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    Rockets look terrible. Youngest team almost taking down the champs on their court. Terrible coaching
     
  4. Dementium

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    Look...I am not a fan of McHale as well but I do think there are some games where he has done well. Most recently the games against Utah and GS.

    His strategy in those two games were spot on and resulted in blowouts of playoff teams. He does make mistakes but well, he's only human.
     
  5. ribbit

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    Sure, Rockets could have won more games with better substitution patterns. However, if the Rockets replaced Mchale with (insert your preferred coach here), do you think the Rockets could have won the same number of games they have now plus the number of "could have won games?" Keeping in mind the youth and inexperience of this team, I don't think so. Even the best coach could only probably manage a few more extra wins at most with this line-up, IMO.

    But that is, of course, arguable, since nobody can really know what will happen if the Rockets took a different coaching route.
     
  6. NotApollo33

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    So true lol...

    Wait.
     
  7. joesr

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    People always look at late game subbing and close scores. You ever think what kept the game close was subbing earlier on? thos games might not even bee that close if McHale did something different. such a young team and yet you people cry.
     
  8. Yetti

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    I just can't understand how Mc Hale gets away with it!
    a) He needs to get his leg fixed for himself and the game.
    b) He needs to have a long talk with Les and Morey, satisfied that he understands that the team is in a rebuilding mode and that his main duty is to coach,develop and give experience to the talent given in to his care, especially the young future stars ( Jones and Monte).
    c) Players under contract must not be treated as sub human, because they are young, they need all the experience of the success of the long Mc Hale NBA career.
    d) Mc Hale, loves to play scrubs, even when going against the NBA Champions, even when he has talent sitting on the bench, awaiting their chance to show just what they can bring to the game. ( almost as bad a JVG)
    e) Every player wants to win the game. I wonder what the mind set of Kevin Mc Hale is when facing CRUNCH time and points on the board are a prerogative. Many times I don't see the wisdom of our Head Coach.
    I wonder also about the supporting coaches and how much they shake up
    Mc Hale? They need to do more, even if Mc Hale gets annoyed !! Y:p
     
  9. joesr

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    No it is symbolic that the half of you posters crying are LOF's. Half of you never even heard of clutchfans till Lin and now that Lin gets seated you cry even more and blame the coach for everything
     
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  10. jtr

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    Just plain ignorance is taking over Clutch Fans. These are the things I look for when rating a head coach:

    1: Is the team cohesive?
    2: Is every player giving consistently high effort?
    3: Has the coaching staff mapped out an overall strategy for the team and is the team moving forward in implementing it?
    4: Is a young team constantly getting better?
    5: Do the players understand their roles on the floor and do they adhere to them?

    When these things are not true, then talk to me about coaching issues.
     
  11. duluth111222

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    Every other NBA can say the same: we could have won more games if such and such.

    We win some close ones, and we lose some. You can't always be lucky. In the end, it probably evens out.
     
  12. duluth111222

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    Of course veteran teams have more experience so they may have more wins in close games. We're the youngest team. So I'd chalk it up as groin pains.
     
  13. Joe Joe

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    If the Rockets still had Dragic, they would have about 5 more wins. I think the Rockets could have both Dragic and Lin.
     
  14. Wolverrines

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    Where is the this team is better then it should be and ahead of schedule option? McHale is not a horrible coach or a great coach. He is just average
     
  15. Ultimate6thMan

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    That is not what this thread is about or was started for. I am a Lin fan because I think he is a good young point guard with abilities and the ability to still improve a lot, and most importantly to coexist and thrive with Harden. But I am a Rockets fan first and foremost, so if Lin got traded and we got Chris Paul, I would not shed any tears nor become a fan of whatever team Lin played for.
     
  16. Ultimate6thMan

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    That is the same as Option #1 if you really look at it.
     
  17. JuanValdez

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    Lol, that was my thought. If McHale rotated the way some posters around here would want, he probably would get fired.
     
  18. Ultimate6thMan

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    I understand your points and they make very good sense. But to call it "ignorance" because a part of the coaching philosophy is being questioned, doesn't really fit on a message board to discuss said team. Are we only to discuss the positive aspects of a team? Don't we also discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each player also? What makes a coach immune from the same type of discussion?

    Although I am not against it, this is not a FIRE McHale thread, even if it is one of the 10 options available.
     
  19. Wolverrines

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    But does he always make the best decisions?
     
  20. SWTsig

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    this is the most tired coaching criticism in the history of the internet. i cant recall a single coach over my tenure on this bbs that didnt routinely draw the ire of posters for "poor subsitution/rotation patterns."

    conversely i sure as hell cant recall any coach draw routine praise for their spot on subsitutions.

    just drop it already.
     

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