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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Heat 2/6/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. charles_zed

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    Miami's defensive strategy is to trap the PNR ball-handler.

    It's smart because the league is stacked with talented guards and PNRs are the bread and butter for teams while there's been a decline in talented front-courts. They've also got the personnel to be able to execute that defense by running small and having Lebron, Wade, Chalmers & Cole who are fast and athletic.

    What we have to do is run some PNPs, slip the screen and get it to the roll man quickly inside, run a lot of staggered screen sets and try to get it to Harden or Parsons to beat them off the dribble that way.

    The fact that we came into this game running fifty thousand screens has me flabbergasted. You'd think we'd have learned how to play against them by now, they've been doing this for three years.

    Of course another solution is to try and post-up a player and dump it inside but we didn't try to do that either, in fact I barely even saw them attempting to front.
     
  2. freemaniam

    freemaniam 我是自由人

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    Where did you see Lin listed 6'4"?
     
  3. flamingdts

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    You are free to look up isolation all over google all you want, you are not going to find definition any different from a player trying to take on the opposing defender one on one whiles the rest of the team gets out of his way.

    And second, isolation IS one on one.

    So if you meant to call it McHale's offense scheme instead, that's fine by me. But you are wrong when you said the entire team's offensive scheme tonight consisted of nothing but isolation plays.
     
  4. Liberon

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    He's supposedly 6'3 barefoot like Wade is. But Wade got like 1 1/2 iches on him easy.
     
  5. Grigori

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    I didn't say it was consisted entirely of nothing but isolation plays. I said they were playing r****ded iso ball for most of the night. It's like I said, if you absotively posilutely do not want to call it that, then feel free to call it r****ded no-screen-on-ball-carrier ball if you want to.

    Heck, I don't even care if you want to say I am "wrong" to call it "r****ded iso ball." That's not even the point. It's like I said, the important thing is that I am right in that the Rockets have pretty much consistently sucked when running it, WeverTF you wanna call it.

    Well, heck, while we are arguing over pointless stuff that has nothing to do with the point anyway, even if you require your four teammates to stand absolutely still (utter nonsense), and the ball carrier must not pass the ball (utter nonsense), you are still going iso when it's one-on-two. The defenders are certainly under no obligation to get out of your way just because your teammates do, but apparently by your definition of iso you must not move the ball when you get triple-teamed running iso, if you do then you are aren't running iso anymore.

    :rolleyes:
     
  6. flamingdts

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    Do you ever know how to make a post without the rolling eyes emoticon? It's frankly pretty annoying.

    Isolation in itself means you let a player go one on one whereas the team gets out of his way. That has ALWAYS been the definition. If there are picks and off ball movement to get open, that is called running a play.

    So if you didn't mean to say isolation, that's fine. You meant to say something else from the very beginning but you didn't know what isolation was, so it's a miscommunication. I based my argument on the fact that you claimed we ran "mostly isolation", so if what you actually meant was McHale's particular offensive scheme, then that's a different story.
     
  7. Dementium

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    Well crap...just like last year the heat put the brakes on Linsanity :(

    Heres to hoping they win the next 10!
     
  8. Just Ballin

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    There's a video of Lin doing a talk for school kids. He tells them he's 6'3 without shoes and 6'4 with. Sounds about right since he's officially measured as 6'3 barefoot.
     
  9. NL Rocket

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    Glad we at least fought back but this game was over before it started, tough brake guys! Still McHale could've done better rotation wise, play Beverley & Smith instead of too much Anderson & Aldrich. Lin was just having a piss poor game and we couldn't take advantage with Bosh out at the 4 position, that's why Millsap or any rebounding, defending post up threat is much better than Pat and or Morris. Just watched the video and what was Anderson thinking, we need a three to tie yet he goes inside though it was clearly a blocking foul.
     
  10. Grigori

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    Let's put it this way: Your definition of iso which requires there to have absolutely zero movement off the ball and be strictly one-on-one is frankly ridiculous. That definition is especially ridiculous when you consider that defenders are under no obligation to guard the player being isolated one-on-one.

    So your defender sags off you and you have a clear path to cut to the basket to receive a pass off the player being isolated for a dunk, but you are not supposed to move because you are playing iso. Ridiculous. You can't make any attempt to get open because you are isolating the ball carrier? Seriously? Ridiculous!

    By your request, I won't ridicule it with a rolling eyes emoticon, but honestly, it just conveys all the right emotions here...
     
  11. landryfans

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    Wade is 6'4 barefoot, 1 inch higher than Lin,
     
  12. Honey Bear

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    Harden single handedly kept the Rockets in this game, produced a McGrady esque performance in the 4th quarter, and all I see is asian kids whining about how Lin didn't handle the ball enough. Even when he wasn't trapped, the guy couldn't get past his defender and is routinely exposed when the game doesn't have an open, YMCA pickup game type feel to it. Not a playoff player.

    This offseason is going to be a big one, and a legit one now that Harden has established himself as a top 10 player. Thought James Anderson was impressive despite the mistakes down the stretch, should replace Morris once Delfino is healthy.
     
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    going 1-2 on a b2b against the warriors and the heat is pretty good in my book...plus portland lost and LAL are without Pau for 6 weeks...awesome game all the same...harden came up huge and its a good thing the heat are in the east...if wade and lebron play like that i cant see anyone beating them this year
     
  14. Morlock O

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    You mean this whiney asian kid?:confused::rolleyes:

     
  15. freemaniam

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    nba.com listed Lin 6'3" and Wade 6'4", so does EPSN. Not sure where you get Wade and Lin are both 6'3", barefoot or not.
     
  16. rockettes

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    whats with the foot fetish?
     
  17. daywalker02

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    one inch does not matter that much... as Wade is a much better player than Jeremy
     
  18. bloodwings19

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    No worries on the future of the Rockets. If they play like this, we will win a lot more games. If we had Dwight, or another rebounding forward, we would win big against the Heat. Home cooking the Blazers next!!!
     
  19. daywalker02

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    one inch does not matter that much... as Wade is a much better player than Jeremy
     
  20. Cazuquel

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    Yesterday was horrible Defense Harden and Parsons
    Result that Lebron and Wade won the game for Miami with 63 points
    When Harden plays very well, only he plays very well because other players do not have the ball in their hands
     

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