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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Heat 2/6/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. Grigori

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    Which is why it would take a combination of hitting difficult shots and not playing r****ded iso ball for us to do it. If we were playing a swiss cheese team we could do it simply by not playing r****ded iso ball.
     
  2. kianainhi

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    From Blaiyan.

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  3. flamingdts

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    You are way exaggerating.

    Isoball = 4 players stand on the side whiles the ball handler takes on the defender one on one.

    We had tons of ball movement throughout the whole game and that was rarely the case.
     
  4. Liberon

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    No way Lin is 6'4", look at him next to Wade in that last clip.
     
  5. Beard

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    How bout hardens D on lebron in the 4th Q? Pretty impressive I thought.
     
  6. Dentyne

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    soooo...is anyone else excited about Warriors -vs- Rockets next week?

    I'm so looking forward to it

    I have a feeling it's going to get a little rough in the Warriors house

    I just hope everyone has their motor running on that night :)
     
  7. Grigori

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    Please.

    :rolleyes:

    Iso ball does not require four players to stand still or the ball carrier not passing when the defense reacts or going one-on-one. With McHale's brand of r****ded iso ball we play plenty of one-on-two and one-on-three.
     
  8. hocash

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    They were doing a good job on pick and rolls. Doubling Lin hard, not allowing the screener to get free, and basically forcing long twos or really bad drives to the bucket.
    They're a good defensive team. Sometimes going iso is unavoidable. Especially if there is really only one player(Harden) who could handle the pressure tonight.
    In two years I saw we can be better than the Heat. Not now though. Heat have 2 more titles in them easy.
     
  9. kianainhi

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    I realize this is the wrong thread, but check out coffeetime's video which I posted on the Warrior's game thread. It has Yao's pics incorporated in the vid. There is a small portion where your computer has no sound but bear with it.
     
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    i agree 100%, why abandon a game plan that helped you score 140 points the night before? harden was good, but when it got close a couple times he choked. i also thought that parsons did a good job defensively on wade at times. the heat deliberately make a concerted effort to score on Lin and Parsons in order to take them out of the game by damaging their confidence. that is a tactic i don't like (because it is tacky) which i also think they lower themselves to doing frequently. why not just play honest team defense? yet if they are going to do this mchale needs to call the next play for Lin and Parsons or whoever got scored on and not allow them to be disrespected, and taken out of the game mentally, just what the heat are trying to do. they are competitors and harden wasn't going to carry the team by himself, especially without delfino. he hasn't been able to do it all season long against the top teams.
     
  11. Liberon

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    I think the Heat exceeding everybody in the league as a team in terms of flops committed. Of course Wade and James are the main culprits but I doubt their bench or supporting cast will ever get a flop warning. Now you set that aside. Wade and LBJ are like mutants of physical specimens, they aren't the quickest but have the power to throw it down while swinging around mass like no other perimeter duo in the league. Wade, by himself, would scare any guard in the history of the game 1 on 1 going to the rim. And Lebron is the most terrifying force going to the rim in the history of the NBA.
     
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    Miami has a track record of shutting down perimeter players if you look at the scores of the opposing PGs for this season. Last time even CP3 just made 3 out 9 shots against them with a win. I think the only chance we have against them is to play D Mo or Smith at 4 along with Asik at 5.
     
  13. flamingdts

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    I don't know what game you watched, obviously not this one.

    The definition of isolation = 1v1 whiles the other players stand aside.

    I rarely saw any situations where a player tried to take on the entire team throughout the entire game. The only situation where we actually relied on iso ball was late the fourth.

    Just look at the highlights alone, there were plenty of ball movement.
     
  14. Grigori

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    That's what I mean about McHale's love of r****ded iso ball. He has an extreme tendency to switch to r****ded iso ball when picks don't go exactly as planned three minutes into the game. Case in point, Asik fumbles a couple of passes early in the Raptors game, McHale immediately calls a timeout and makes the adjustment not set another pick on Jose "Arguably the Worst PnR Defender in the History of the NBA" Calderon for two and a half quarters.

    There is no question that the Heat's PnR defense is good; the problem is that their r****ded iso ball defense is much better still. They were going to get trapping pressure either way, the pressure is just much worse when the Rockets are playing "Please trap our guards with impunity!" r****ded iso ball.

    It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
     
  15. Grigori

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    Please.

    :rolleyes:

    Iso ball does not require four players to stand still or the ball carrier not passing when the defense reacts or going one-on-one.
     
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    Tell you what though, at least Lin wasn't getting destroyed by Chalmers and Cole like his first game against the Heat. Thats an improvement. It was more the traps, and double teams that messed him up.
     
  17. flamingdts

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    Please.

    :rolleyes:

    From wikipedia.
     
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    I hate how Miami gets a majority of the west coast teams on their back 2 back
     
  19. Grigori

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    Their bigs made them pay through the nose when they tried to trap their guards off screens. Passing out of a trap is difficult/high risk, and if it just results in long jumpers you are unlikely to win. It needs to end up in a layup or a dunk even if the initial pass doesn't go inside.
     
  20. Grigori

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    First of all, the "isolation" is in quotes. Secondly, it says nothing about requiring the other players to stand still, or requiring the ball carrier not to pass, or requiring it to be one-on-one.

    You know, feel free to call it r****ded no-screen ball or r****ded McHale ball if you want.

    :rolleyes:

    It doesn't really matter what you call it, McHale still has the Rockets run it and the Rockets still suck when they run it.
     

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