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Utah Radio Guys: "I heard Houston is interested in [Paul Millsap]"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. Wolverrines

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    You can take a that stance on anybody on this team expect maybe Parsons
     
  2. OremLK

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    Millsap: 3.6 FTM per game
    Patterson: 0.9 FTM per game

    Millsap: 2.5 assists per game
    Patterson: 1.1 assists per game

    And those efficiency numbers you listed? They're skewed because of the role Patterson is playing. He's only asked to be the finisher. He rarely has to create his own shot--he's given wide open, easy looks many times a game as his defender leaves to try and defend Harden or Lin.

    Millsap is being asked to do much more on offense because Utah has a crappy back court. He takes a much higher percentage of contested shots. Put him in our offense alongside James Harden and you'll see his efficiency shoot up.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    Also, small sample size for Patterson. Can he really keep up those #s all year?
     
  4. charles_zed

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    To be fair Patterson plays with Lin, Harden & Parsons who are great and willing passers. Most defenses key in on Harden & Lin and so most of Patterson's shot attempts are wide open, or he has to put little effort in.

    But yes, I do think that Patterson could become comparable in productivity to Millsap and he's a got a very good midrange jump-shot which is valuable for us.
     
  5. larsv8

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    Final judgement...no. Final judgement is for retired players.

    But, our timer just started for the Harden era. We have ~7 years to make something happen before our window starts closing.

    Lin is not some rookie on a small managable deal, he is an 8 million dollar albatross who is not producing anything tangible. We frankly don't have time to wait around for him to get better while clogging up our cap.

    Trading Lin/Patterson for Milsap, not only upgrades the roster immediately (Douglas/Milsap vs. Lin/Patterson), it allows us to preserve our max cap space (Iggy, Smith, Mayo, CP3, Howard, etc.) AND resign Milsap. That is how you upgrade a roster.

    Paying Lin 8 million dollars is an opportunity cost preventing you from being able to pay 8 million to someone who is actually good now.
     
  6. AggNRox

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    morey sucks.
     
  7. charles_zed

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    Millsap's mid-range jumper isn't anywhere as good as Patterson's though. Why would we need a face-up post-player who rarely (if ever) draws double coverage and is only a minor upgrade over our starting PF?

    When our offense slows down and we need to dump it to the low-post I'd rather an elite low post player like LMA, Al Jeff, Griffin, Gasol etc.

    Of course those guys can't be had, but I wouldn't trade for a 2nd tier star. I'd just sign him in the off-season.
     
  8. charles_zed

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    You would trade Lin & Patterson for an expiring Millsap.

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  9. jim1961

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    Not new logic here, but I dont feel Milsap is the coveted 2nd superstar Houston is ultimately seeking. A very good player, but not superstar material.

    That said, if offering him 4 yrs / 42-48M kills our ability to add a superstar, then you have to wonder about this.

    On the other hand, half the league is thinking the same thing (those with flexibility and cap room in the near future to pay a max contract). And all of those teams are also thinking that while Milsap isnt superstardom, he is an upgrade (for most).

    As for Houston, he would be a upgrade, but vault us to finals contention? Not likely. But waiting for Mr. Superstar #2 to become available might take years (Harden anyone?). But Houston has years, in that their current core wont start expiring for years to come. Although waiting looks like the smart move, I cant envision us staying pat that long either.
     
  10. larsv8

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    In a nano-second.
     
  11. Wolverrines

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    Jefferson is maybe one of the better post players in the NBA, which says a lot in how bad the NBA has become in that part of the game, but nevertheless is far better then anyone in the Rockets frontcourt. Now playing next to Harden and Parson does help out but Milsap has Jefferson right by his side.
     
  12. OremLK

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    For his defense and rebounding, plain and simple. He may only be a side-grade on offense but he's a HUGE upgrade on defense and the boards.
     
  13. Wolverrines

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    All day and twice on sunday:)
     
  14. Scolalist

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    8 mil a year for Millsap would be a steal and also would still keep the Rockets under the cap.
     
  15. ROXTXIA

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    Millsap would flourish here. He can shoot the 3 and board, whereas Aunt Pittypat (see: Wind, Gone with the) shoots the 3 but manages -1.2 rebounds a game. He's the Yinka Dare of rebounds (pass the ball, Yinka!)

    But Millsap will cost 10 million a year.

    Morey will just flip him for Klove in a year anyway.
     
  16. Wolverrines

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    Now I don't know if you are saying max money for Iggy, Smith and Mayo but if so then wow. But I really don't think you are
     
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    Lin was massively overpaid? :grin:
    Where did you get this idea? He is massively overpaid, than how much do you think he should be paid based on his performance?
    Lin's stat of 2013:
    43.1 0.8 2.9 28.9 2.3 3.0 77.2 0.6 3.1 3.7 6.1 2.0 3.0 0.4 2.5 12.2

    If he is massively overpaid, then can you sign a PG with similar performance with 4 million a year?



     
  18. coolweather

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    i hope it's not Chandler.
     
  19. Wolverrines

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    See that is what I think he is worth so in the NBA where you overpay he is likely to get 9.5 to 10.5 anything more is just gross
     
  20. larsv8

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    I'm not. Max to spend on any number of pieces.
     

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