Clutch's makes trade for new EGO? Proof is in the picture?

Exactly. Even if he knew Morey's intentions 100%, there are so many factors influencing everything. Its nice to know of the "Possible" directions the organization could be going in.

 

problems with the two names being mentioned:

Cousins - Sac-town ownership doesn't want to make any deals that might undermine the sale of the team; also ownership has been supportive of keeping Cousins

Garnett - has a no-trade clause, is loyal to Doc and Pierce, lives in LA, and likely wants to go to a contender if dealt (...but has McHale connect)

 

Beating up a drunk fan in a basketball arena is a little different than murdering two men.

I hate Ray Lewis.

 

Yes!! It's always opposite day when Alex Kennedy speaks!!

 

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^^has been posted, get that sh** outta here!

by the way, anybody think about who Doc might be? What/who does the person symbolize that is going to checkout?

 

already been posted in this thread, but we have to consider the special relationship between he and McHale. If given the option to stay with the sinking ship that Boston would be if they're trying to trade people away or us with the coach who believed in him from the start you would think he would choose coming here.

 

I still like this post

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7604334&postcount=431

but it leaves too many unknowns. I'm not sold on Walgreens symbolizing the Rockets organization. There are many options for what Walgreens symbolizes, but what does the customer (Doc) symbolize? It's like he's bringing his trading chips for checkout... I dunno

 

I don't know we should ask Clutch? Would he grow out his beard for a longer period of time bc he's a fan/part of the Rockets. Well known figure. I wouldn't doubt he'd grow his beard out for the "excitement" of James Harden reppin "the beard." So, no not stupid, not a joke, but I have never seen Dave with a beard before Harden got here. I have only seen pictures though.

Like I said to Rockets2k-I was making a point that Harden is the "marketing" behind "the beardsanity." I just was making a point to someone's response saying that they were all "Dave's", and I didn't get what he was trying to say, I knew it wasn't a bunch of James Harden's, but it was a bunch of repping the "Harden Beard." That is what I see in the photo because of the Harden logo that is also visible along with all the C (Clutchfan's logos around the pic).

I am an Economist, and the last thing I think of is just "one" reason for something. There is always for anything multiple causes and effects of situations.

I was just responding, and obv. through text rather than face to face it's a bit harder to understand what was communicated. So I am sorry for those that don't think Dave would grow a beard & keep it bc of his love for the current "iconic figure of the Rockets known for his BEARD.

I didn't understand what his point was so was trying to infer that I think Harden is the "marketing" (Harden has said the recruiting process has begun earlier this season) So, it was more of saying Harden isn't getting traded, and "They are all Dave's" I didn't get what he meant.

So the question still remains who has decocted Doc's thoughts?! haha. It'll probably take some time like his thread right before the draft. Who knows?

 

i'm just waiting for some hack sports writer to read this mess and start tweeting that Houston and Boston are in discussions regarding Royce for Garnett. Then watch this board really blow up. It's like getting robbed for weed by your dealer, and then he sells it right back to you.

 

edit*^ the last thing I WOULDN'T^ "think of...is just "one" effect. Sorry for the edit; I had it mis-worded.

 

If we can find a GM dumb enough to take Royce off our hands then that would be awesome. Me personally, and other teams before draft day, specifically had doubts on his past, and all he did was 100% confirm that. You don't want a guy that could bail on you in the middle of a play, during the game, before a game, and right after the game. Too much of a wildcard and adds chaos to the lockerroom.

 

DD... how you been sir...

 

Hehe. Not a joke or stupid, just silly.

Link to your academic papers, Mr Cantillon?

 

Guys, who's the biggest ego we can trade for and is currently gelling with his team?

Dwight Howard.

 

Interesting? I feel ya on the DC thing. I could see Sac Town not wanting to disvalue the team, but maybe they're just ready to let loose on Cousins. He has been a bit of a problem for them. PP, and Asik with a throw in or so wouldn't make that team worse. Although, I would hate giving up Asik (at this point) for DC (unproven, but just RAW).

I could see Sac. going after even Royce White, or one of the younger guys we have, but I don't know. I feel ya on those thoughts though. Trust in Morey; I guess!!

 

It's just common sense guys. Everybody knows what kind of GM Morey is. If he can poach a good player for a little bit of nothing and preserve his future flexibility, he's gonna do it. And guys like Garnett, Millsap, Granger, and Gortat all fit that mold. It's a matter of if one or more of them can be acquired without giving up very much for them.

In a year with many team will have cap space, cap space becomes overrated. The option to have cap space or to sign and trade guys is better than just cap space. Morey is not going to trade for any contract that he can't turn around and give away for nothing. Morey is only going to trade for contracts that are value contracts. Morey is looking for a way to have the option to have cap space or to have assets to trade simultaneously.

A good or great player on a short or ending contract is more valuable than cap space. That player gives you the ability to re-sign him if there is not a better option available, he can also be signed and traded, and that is a very valuable commodity on a team that is under the cap because he can be traded for 50% or $5 million more than what he is signed for. Cap space only give you the ability to sign a guy outright or to trade for a salary equal to the cap space. A good to great player on a short contract gives you the ability to take back more salary than what you send out and in turn send out a quality player on an agreed to salary. Morey is looking to acquire such a player, that can contribute now, that can be signed and traded, or simply traded for an equal or better player.

The odds of acquiring Howard and Paul through free agency is very, very slim. And they're the only guys worthy of a max contract in 2013 (and I'm starting to have doubts about Howard's worth.) We all saw what happened to Cuban last year. He was left holding the bag. Morey doesn't want to operate that way.

With that in mind, and remembering all the teams that have cap space to burn this offseason...cap space is not really as valuable as a good player on an expiring contract or a really good player with 1 year left on his deal.

That's why you've got to keep players like Garnett, Gortat, Granger, and Millsap in mind. Those are all guys on expiring or very short deals or in Garnett's case a longer deal that he is most likely going to have to be talked into completing. So when you put together the post and the picture, it should be no surprise that Garnett is being discussed by Morey and Ainge, especially with all the history between them and also McHale and Garnett. Houston is probably one of very few destinations Garnett could conceivably be talked into going to.

 

*is not

 

ya, I edited it below I write fast on the forum-supposed to read the last thing I wouldn't think is just "one" reason for something.

Anyways, the point of this thread isn't me so no need to bash. Sure you could find me, but I'm not going to give you my name.

Ya, I am an economist, and the thoughts, and "reasons" can be multiple. I just assumed that the beard of harden was more so the "Marketing" of getting another player.

I do think that a lot of people have grown beards, or had the fake beards for the whole "Harden excitement." So, actually I don't think it is silly. I think it was silly for the guy that I was responding to thinking that Harden would be traded. I just didn't get what he was saying? That's all.