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Toronto trades for Rudy Gay

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by RoxTurk, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Member

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    I think it was a good move. At the time there were plenty of doubters. Maybe the main thing was, we could've AT LEAST got that Memphis pick at #22(?) out of the deal, if just not to look like we got fleeced.

    I was in the Toyota Center for that draft and remember JVG zipping off stage before the #8 pick went down. Granted, he might have been sitting in the war room for the selection. I imagined him getting out of Dodge before the hanging party could grab him. :)
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    okay,well i'm putting my "money" where my mouth is right now
     
  3. BigBenito

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    Out of curiosity, are you going to attach an efficiency clause to that?

    Because there is little doubt that they are going to showcase their new star.
     
  4. LCAhmed

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    do you think players would rather play with James Harden or Greg Monroe/Drummond? Detroit isnt a very good city right now while Houston is booming.
     
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    yeah something like that
     
  6. rolyat93

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    23 points, that's Vince Carter-esque LOL.
     
  7. jim1961

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    I think whats more important than how much he scores is in what manner he does so.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    If he does it'll likely be because he takes more shots...Tony Campbell was a role player for the Lakers Showtime teams - became a starter on the expansion Minnesota Timberwolves, and began shooting like crazy (since there was no Magic et al to shoot instead) and was a 20 ppg scorer for a few seasons. He improved and played decently but he wasn't that good.

    Vince Carter meanwhile put up multiple all-NBA team selections with Toronto - that's a different achievement than Rudy Gay pushing hits shots-per-game mark up over 20.
     
  9. jim1961

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    That sounds more like a Memphis fans take on what they want a Rockets fan take to be :p
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    How about if Rudy maintains his scoring average but bumps his TS% to 57?
     
  11. OremLK

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    Yep. Also, it doesn't really matter that we traded him because there is no way he would have carried us to a championship and there is no way Morey would be stupid enough to sign him to a max contract... so he would be gone without having helped us anyway.

    I think the opposite is true, some fans decided years ago to be butthurt that we traded Rudy Gay and still haven't gotten over it, refusing to admit that he's not a very good player despite his raw physical talent.
     
  12. OremLK

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    That's like saying, what if Derek Jeter maintained his batting average but started hitting 30+ home runs a year. Of course it would make his value a ton higher, but what part of Rudy Gay makes you think he can suddenly go from bad-to-mediocre efficiency to ++ efficiency? We know what this guy f***ing is, he's played in almost 500 games in the NBA while averaging 36 minutes per game over the span of that career. The chances of him miraculously transforming into a hyper-efficient player are very slim.

    Still, crazy sh** like that happens sometimes in pro sports. It's incredibly rare, but to continue the baseball analogy, sometimes you luck into a Jose Bautista or Ben Zobrist. What are the chances that happens with Gay though? Probably 1% or so.
     
  13. GanjaRocket

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    harden 9/10 times
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    I agree, just saying that would be a good bet for those who believe in Gay vs. those who don't.
     
  15. Carl Herrera

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    Gay would have to do what he's doing RIGHT NOW with the Raptors, for the REST of the season. He's currently 57 TS%

    His free throw attempts are a very constant 4 FTs/game at 77%. Gay is shooting 5 threes a game with the Raptors at 36%, while shooting 48% overall.

    To realistically do it, he'd have to pick up his free throw attempts while shooting a higher FT%, while being a high volume 3 pt shooter at over 36%, which he's done just once.
     
  17. meh

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    I'm surprised no one has taken you up on what I perceive to be an outrageous statement. No need for efficiency clauses or anything else. Straight up, 23ppg or better, you win. Any less, I win. I have no signature, so there's plenty of space to add whatever you want should you win. I don't even have anything I would like for you to sig for me. I just think it's too outrageous a statement to let go.

    That said, let's do have some sort of minimum game played clauses in there. After all, it doesn't prove either of our point if Gay plays for 5 games, blow out his knee, and miss the rest of the season. I'm thinking 15 games, which is more or less enough games to weed out some flukish play, good or bad.

    I can't imagine Rudy can average TS% of 57. Regardless of his scoring. And I am willing to place a tip jar/signature bet on this too if you like. 57TS% is incredibly high for a non-role player. That is absolutely star level for which IMO, Rudy Gay is not. He can have Nash-like shot selection for all I care and average 15ppg on 57TS%. I still don't think it's happening.
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    if i would have known rudy was cocerned about fashion i probably wouldnt have proposed the bet. I guess he hasnt reached the age to know good pork ribs is more important.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    He's going to move into the MacBeth house with all the models and such.
     
  20. Ming The King

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    It is someone there that still believes it was a good trade for Memphis?
     

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