Sam Amico: Rockets have a "keen eye" on Danny Granger

With Lebron, Wade, and Bosh...

Granger is 30, injured, and an anchor on Houston's cap space this summer. That's a pass. Plus, pretty much every idea Carl Herrera has had regarding player acquisitions has been awful so I'll stick with precedent here.

 

Lol...

 

You don't... I said "EXCLUDES" Parsons for Granger

Strangely 82games.com actually has Shane playing almost no time at PF during the regular season last year:

http://www.82games.com/1112/11MIA6.HTM#bypos

Must be wrong... I recognize this was not the case during the playoffs.

But then you are correct, I shouldn't have been so absolute. Absent having one of the most unique players in the history of the sport surrounded by another HOF who had already led his team to a championship and a 3rd sure fire all star, all of whom are GREAT team defenders and above average individual defenders, surrounded by solid role playing talent, and it is unlikely a SF/PF rotation consisting of Parson/Granger is going to win a championship anytime soon.

Again, you're right, but man is it so unique. Lebron is part of that combo and Battier is a plus defender that came much cheaper than Parsons or Granger would. Give me a combo like that and I'll roll with it.

Do you think a Granger/Parsons starting SF/PF combination is going to win a championship? Can I see something like CP3, Harden, Granger, Parsons, Dwight competing annually for a trophy? Of course. But that's not going to happen. And even if it was feasible to at some point somehow get them all to the Rockets, it's not sustainable because of salary demands, which Miami doesn't have to the same degree with Chalmers/Battier.

Anyway, too much focus on this... I think you get my point.

I think DM trades for Granger, if he does, because he can do so relatively cheaply while keeping Parsons, which allows him to package Parsons in another deal... IF it comes up.

 

Granger 2 years ago was the 2nd best defender at the 3, he isn't top 5 any longer, but he is right off that T5 cusp still (waits to be seen with knee issues). Granger isn't ball dominate, he has just been on a team that has been lousy for a long time. Parsons has defended 4's better than 3's for 2 straight years, being 6'10 allows that to happen. Granger is 6'9 and could defend a 4 if needed, but Parsons would def be the 4, and if he goes against Zbo or someone, u just be traditional with a different forward. And for those who say 'going on 30....pass', then u better not hype Gasol or JSmith, or for that matter, anyone available, because ur argument is mute. Our goal this year would most likely be just reach the PO's, and u want picks and cap space for Kevin Love's year, not this year. Whoever think Dwight or Paul would come to Houston now is living in a dream, there are better teams. Houston's goal should be Playoffs (2013), then Picks (2014), then Capspace for Love. Granger fits this bill better than anyone in the NBA right now. Did anyone not see JUST last year that Indy, with Granger as their man, give Miami all they could handle?

 

No he doesnt. Harden gets to the rim better while granger is great with coming of screens and spotting up.

 

Alright let's not act like we were all not begging and dreaming that our rockets would get granger and now it's possible and most are saying no. Look everybody granger can ball he played on the Olympic USA team he's been a all star and he has been the number one guy before. I think coming to houston would be perfect for granger and us. He can come here play loose with no pressure take a back seat to harden who will allow him to shoot so many open shots that he WILL knock down and for us it's buy low sell high if he don't work out which he WILL we just trade him next year win win situation.

 

If that's the crap they are truly saying, then I'd be hard-pressed to find a fan base that's less knowledgeable than the Pacers' fans. Seriously? Harden (the most efficient, and talented SG in the NBA right now) will mess up your team's chemistry?? Parsons (one of the most up-and-coming, affordable wing players in the NBA) for your hot garbage? That's just flat out asinine.

 

repped

 

Dude has chronic knee injuries. Even when he plays he doesn't look healthy.

I don't know...

 

I mean on the one hand he is only a couple years removed from 24ppg and he's always been a good 3P shooter, which is always useful on this team. On the other hand... injuries... age... recent performance...

 

Man Morey f'd up so hard by drafting so many PFs. I find it hard to believe that most teams would want to adopt a stable of tweener forwards. Had there been a promising guard or serviceable C prospects in the mix as well that would be nice. COME ON DARREN MURRAY!

 

So, when has Amico been correct about a Rockets' rumor in the past?

 

I completely forgot Kevin Pritchard is the GM of the Pacers now. Unless there is a move that is based more on a salary dump, it may be tough to land Granger because, I just don't see Morey overpaying for him at this point of his career. Unless, Pritchard being in the Eastern Conference now helps a little, since he's not in direct competition with the Rockets.

Don't forget that Pritchard blocked us a couple of times when he was with Portland. KP is good and a bit of an A hole.

 

If I'm the Pacers I want at least one of Asik & Parsons included in any package for Granger, it's not like they're desperate for cap relief.

 

If I'm Houston, pacers can go to hell.

 

Iggy is a free agent at the end of the season and Denver isn't going to keep him. The Rockets can go after him in the off season. His numbers are down playing out of his natural position so he won't command a max contract.

Of course Granger is better scoring wise but with Lin and Harden, Iggy could easily drop 17 a game. His outside game is decent and he's serious going to the goal and he has a very good below the free throw line game as well. He has great handles and can legitimately play the 1-3 positions. But most importantly Iggy is a far superior defensive player on the perimeter. He would take pressure off of the backcourt and that's where the Rockets get killed at the most. Scoring isn't the issue for the Rockets, they are amongst the best in the NBA at that. And lineups of Iggy and Parsons at the 2-3 looks a lot better defensively than Granger and Parsons at the 3-4.

I would take Iggy for $10-$11 million than Granger for $13 or Smith for $$$$$$$

If the Rockets wanted to get a small or power forward (and Morey isn't trading for a PF because T Jones is the future) Iggy is the guy who helps the team the most with a cheaper price tag. That way the Rockets could upgrade the bench (J.J. Redick would be nice).

But Granger is going to have to show that knee off first.

 

^ This.
Indy doesn't actually have to make a move. I don't think we get Granger without giving up either of the two. Someone else is likely to offer more than we can. Unless we are guaranteed to lock up Pek long-term this summer, we pretty much can't part with Asik. As far as Parsons goes ...i had hoped we would get more, but perhaps i am over-valuing him.

 

29 with knee issues when parsons will give you almost equal production in the years to come for 13 million less.
No offense to amico, but it doesn't sound like mauryball at all.
We're young not desperate. Seems like these writers want to include us in every trade discussion just because of Daryl's reputation. they're just throwing darts blindfolded.

 

A great percentage of NBA fans are douchey homers and have poor knowledge of the game.

If Harden seems a ballhog, he's being asked to save the team on a nightly basis. I guess we can ignore his 5 assists per game?

Parsons is almost the equal of Granger, almost, and at, what?, 7% the cost?

 

Buy low sell high is Morey's mantra.

Who among the team would you say is playing at a "sell high" level right now?

1. Chandler Parsons
2. Omer Asik
3. Yes, even James Harden

It's always the answers that Clutchfans don't wanna here but have to admit in the end. We'll almost certainly keep James Harden, because his value to us is much greater than his trade value to anyone else. Because of his age, I keep Harden over anything except James, Durant, and Irving. But this ain't fantasy basketball so none of that is gonna happen.

But recall our history. We traded Rafer Alston, not at his apex but much earlier than his significant decline. We definitely traded Carl Landry at his apex. We traded Brooks while he still had value. And we made Lowry into a borderline all-star and then traded him too. So, although our core is young and projects to keep improving, look towards those guys who you think might be peaking relative to their talent.

I definitely agree that Parsons is a kind of guy whose defensive acumen and on-the-court intelligence is of significant use to this team. He's probably #3 on our list of most valuable players behind Harden and Asik. But Morey's track record with 2nd round picks is telling. He's good at finding them, but he also understands the reason why they fell. Talent prevails in this league, and if it's Parsons and contract filler for Granger I think you still have to do it. Granger's value hasn't been lower over the past five years; he's an Olympian and a bright one at that. If he sees a chance to win a championship here, even if it means taking on a bit less money, he might stay on. It doesn't obviate our need for a superstar big man, but it's another step in the right direction.