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Toronto trades for Rudy Gay

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by RoxTurk, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. faraza84

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    Millsap is restricted, I guess I was mistaken. That would be too risky but as bigs available for trade their just aren't many.
     
  2. juicystream

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    Trading away half your rotation will do that when facing OKC in OKC.
     
  3. Gil

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    Excuses. Teams will just double Gasol and Randolph at will now with no Gay.
     
  4. Kwame

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    Very efficient game by the Grizzlies tonight. Trading Gay was definitely addition by subtraction. Memphis will go far in the playoffs.
     
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  5. Z-Ro&Trae

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    everybody is hating on rudy gay, but rudy gay at his absolute worst is still better than landry fields at his best.
     
  6. ArtV

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    Trading mid year on a winning team is a gamble but they were better without Gay in the playoffs so I think if you can dump him for what they got, then you do it. With Marc and Zach and Prince's D, they will be just fine.
     
  7. Arthurprescott2

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    jason mentioned this on rocketscast - Grizz might look to pick up jj reddick. and with glen davis done for the season, I could see it happening with ed davis as a trade piece.
     
  8. TheShooter

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    Ed Davis is looking good this year, he is panning out. I don't think the Grizz want to trade him for Reddick.
     
  9. Arthurprescott2

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    yea he's good but he would be the 4th big in the rotation. I guess long term it would be good to stash him away for later but considering his contract is up in a year, I could see them trading for a floor spacer in reddick who can come off the bench as 6th man. I think that move would make MEM a much better team, esp offensively. at least 2nd round team and with some luck WCF.

    depends on whether they want to go for it or wait out a year I guess.
     
  10. carayip

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    Let's be honest here. No other teams will ever be favorites over Miami and OKC as long as Lebron and Durant are around. The best hope for the rest of league is a Pistons or Mavs type championship. All you can do is to give it a shot.
     
  11. carayip

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    Well if they were hardly contending before, they are for sure not contending now. Don't under-estimate the loss of morale and team chemistry when the management clearly don't believe in this group. No team besides Miami and OKC are true contenders anyway so should every one of the rest of the league just give up the season and tank? All you could ask for as a fan is to give it your best shot. If I were a Memphis fan, I would be pissed.
     
  12. tehG l i d e

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    This makes a ton of sense actually. The Grizzlies are in desperate need of a 3pt shooter/scorer off the bench. They're already set with Affallo at the 2 and now they'll have a promising young PF in Ed Davis to develop with Vucevic.
     
  13. what

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    Believe me when I say that SA, OKC and LAC all love the fact that Rudy Gay was traded from the grizzlies.

    The grizzlies are one of the few teams that have consistently hold their own against these teams. Last year, the grizzlies took LAC to 7 games and basically KILLED LAC chances of advancing past the 2nd round since the grizzlies beat them up internally.

    The grizzlies this year are one of the few teams that have beaten OKC, SA AND miami, ALL the teams that, if you listen to the playoff know-it-alls, the grizzlies have no shot of beating in the playoffs. The deal sucks, and nothing is going to change that.
     
  14. MemphisX

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    You act like Rudy Gay has been a difference maker. He hasn't. Him playing well doesn't make the team look any better and playing poorly doesn't hurt the team much either. He has never been a difference maker.

    The Rudy Gay fantasy that he is some fantastic perimeter offensive option is false. He is a drive/slash version of Mike Miller. Somehow people are still hypnotized with athleticism even though the production does not come with it.
     
  15. OremLK

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    The fact that Toronto decided to build around a guy making the max whose talent level is that of a good 6th man just makes me shake my head.
     
  16. DonatasFanboy

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    Houston did that too!

    I think Toronto just wants the 8th seed. I won't be stunned if they add another overpaid guy to achieve that. Maybe sign and trade for Josh Smith at 19 mil / year this summer.
     
  17. OremLK

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    If you're referring to Harden:

    James Harden's talent level is that of a superstar who you can build your offense around. In 38 minutes he scores 26 points per game on .589 TS%.

    Gay's offense is a joke by comparison. In 37 minutes he scores 17 points on a whopping .478 TS%.

    They've had opposite career paths and it shows. Gay was thrust into being a starter despite having the talent level of a bench player. Harden was forced to come off the bench despite having the talent level of a superstar.

    The contrast is extreme.
     
  18. Kojirou

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    With what money? Dwyer pointed out that the Raptors next season will be a luxury tax team...and this isn't a team which you can absolutely state will make the playoffs. That is Isiah level incompetence.
     
  19. what

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    MemphisX, your whole M.O. is based on throwing endless combinations of players in neverending strings of trades and watching them for a minute while you plot your next master plan.

    You've advocated, at one point, to sign Zach Randolph and a year later, Zach HAS TO go: and your reasoning? Zach served his purpose, which I can only assume is, going you the thrill of seeing how HE would do in the lineup and then discard him when your whimsy is satisfied.

    You have no concept of basketball.
     
  20. DonatasFanboy

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    it was a joke. not a well delivered, clearly. :eek:
     

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