ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Nuggets 1/30/2013

Chauncey Billups averaged 5.7 assists in 35 minutes per game in 2004 and 3.9 assists in 31 minutes per game the year prior in 2003.

Certainly not the numbers of a "pure pass-first" PG. Billups entered the league as a combo guard eventually becoming a Sam Cassell-style PG.

Since 1991, the vast majority of PGs on NBA championship teams haven't been "pure" or "pass-first," but shoot-first or leans shoot-first.

This includes the previously mentioned Phil Jackson teams that won 11 NBA championships with starting PGs named John Paxson, B.J. Armstrong, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper and Derek Fisher. Also a Miami Heat team that started Mario Chalmers at PG and the Houston Rockets championship teams of '94 and '95 that started Kenny Smith.

We're talking most NBA championships since 1991 being won by teams that started PGs who averaged between 2-4 assists!

 

I agree. He is very passive in the first quarter, passed the ball to anybody and run to the corner. I am pissed and confused. I remember he passed to Asik and Asik did not know who to passed.

 

Warrior's GM isnt that dumb

 

No not really.

 

Magic, Kidd and Cousy laugh at your claim:grin:

 

Some fans need to look at the good from the loss , Lin SHUTDOWN the 10th best PG and had Lawson on Skates all Night

 

Good point! They played the Nuggets tough on their home court and almost pulled out a win. Big improvement from last time they played them.

Unfortunately for Lin though his reward was the bench.

 

Bleacher Report???!!!! It's worthless...

 

Actually I thought it was interesting that he said Parsons was the captain of the team. Figured it would be Harden & or Lin with Parsons. Didn't realize that it would be just Parsons.

 

Tyson Chandler DPOY

 

It was one particular person's post you were replying to. But you generalized what he thinks to what "LIN fans" think in your response. Just my 2cents at why you were getting the reaction.

 

I do not think the substation if Lin is the most important issue in this game... Misusing harden by playing him long long minutes is. Unless harden somehow could never be tired. You need to rest harden if you want him to show up in 4th quarter.

it also beyond apprehension that Mchale benched Douglas for Beverly for a few games and then benched Beverly for Douglas...

 

LeBron choked

 

Hot streaks, cold streaks, and TOs happen even when the right players are employing the right strategy. They are the cost of doing business. It's a sign of an absolutely clueless coach when you hear them explain a loss as, "Oh, we missed some shots and had some TOs."

Right, if we had made 5 more shots and had 5 fewer TOs and DEN missed 5 more shots we would have won. Yeah, no shat? Obviously you are not to blame since you did your duty and told the players to make more shots and have fewer TOs? Nice try, coach.

Why do you think coaches tend to get the blame? Strategic coaching mistakes even for a few minutes are generally very very costly. Even when a player employs the right strategy, he is going to miss shots and have TOs. When he employs the wrong strategy, that's when the team go into complete collapse and loses unnecessarily.

That was what happened this time.

Oh yeah, oopty doo, the Rockets had 7 TOs in the 4th. Well, guess what? The Nuggets had 6 TOs in the 4th. Yeah, DEN was hot for a bit. Yeah? So was the Rockets. Yeah, HOU was cold for a bit. Yeah? So was DEN. All these ups and downs are going to average out in the long run, what doesn't average out are the systematic strategic blunders committed by McHale.

What was the difference in this game? When DEN's open shots were not falling and their players were committing mental errors by the half dozens, the Rockets were too busy executing their coaches' fail iso ball for an entire quarter to build the point differential cushion they may need later when the balls start not falling their way.

Shots are going to be missed when shots are taken, opponents are going to get hot sometimes, TOs are going to happen when you make basketball moves, but these fetish strategic coaching errors do not have to happen!

For McHale, an opponent cold/error streak means he gets to play with his fetish fail ball for a quarter or two, as long as the game stays "manageable" or whatever the f*** he wants to call it. A 6-point lead is not when you f*** around with an entire quarter of iso fail ball, Mister Son of Fail. You want to f*** around, do it when you have a 35-point lead.

It's not even about benching Lin. Yeah, Lin helps a lot as far as the Rockets not playing stagnant ball goes, that is, whenever he is actually authorized to initiate the offense, but so can Beverley in the short stretches we got to see him play. Instead, we get Tney Uglas, who has the physical ability, but not the brains, to execute anything except iso fail ball.

At least with Harden out there he is talented enough to make the iso fail ball work a wee little bit (I think the Rockets are good enough for 8-19 with iso fail ball if Harden plays 44+ min a game). When even Harden is sitting on the bench and we have to watch Parsons, Delfino, or Morris executing the iso fail ball, this team is unwatchable. Those are the stretches which kill us in close games.

And those stretches don't have to happen. Ever. If only we had a half competent coach.

 

^yep.
ISO = ROCKET LAUNCHERS IMPLODE

 

Unbelievable... So a bunch of fickle, arrogant fanboys join a site in the last 6 months and now want to tell the founder of the most successful basketball fan site what he should think and do????

Dave started this site nearly 20 years ago and has spent countless hours and money devoted to it. He has a access to the Rockets front office and the players that all you Linophiles only can dream of. Every morning he craps out more basketball knowledge than the lot of you combined. Yet you come on his site and called him biased????

GTFO

 

On a more positive note (?), Lin seems to have figured out how not to fall like a sack of potatoes. And both Lin and Asik haven't bled in a long while... KNOCK ON WOOD.

 

i kinda agree with you. TO is going to happen no matter what. i hate to see TOs come from those non-pg players trying to play like a pg. i just shook my head when parsons took the last play of 3rd qt.

 

OUCH!

 

Listening to it now. Jason really laying it on thick that DEN is a top tier team. DISAGREE. He speaks of them as if they are a much superior team.

We were going against a team w/ their arguably most destructive (to both sides) big in JaVale. If anything, it was our best chance to take out a team that admittedly HOU does not match up well against. That said, DEN is not top tier and HOU is not much worse than them.