Does Harden have the potential to be better than T-Mac in his prime?

I don't even want to talk about Lin in this thread.

I"m just saying I don't think Harden has the potential to be better than Tmac prime. IMO Tmac prime was better than Kobe because I don't think Tmac even ever reach his peak. I think some can make that argument. If Tmac had better supporting cast, he could have had some rings and better numbers.

Kobe and Tmac are almost equals to me if things went the right way for Tracy. Thus, base on my opinion of tmac and kobe almost being equals, I can not say that Harden will be as good as a Tmac Prime. Also tmac was never gifted free-throws like Harden has.

 

Ironically, Harden's weakness in his jump shot might put him over McGrady one day because Harden will still have the mentality to attack the rim.

McGrady was so talented. He had the height, the athleticism, the length, the court vision. And he could shoot. But when his body, particularly his back, started to break down--Tmac never regained that kill-mode mentality and quite frankly, he quit on the team. I still remember that Toronto game, and I don't think I've ever been more disgusted watching an athlete making millions playing a game.

But I still remember 13 in 33, so for Harden to reach that level, he needs to do a better job closing out games, rather than going ISO-mode and turning it over trying to run through 4 defenders or settling for fadeaway.

 

dang. now we have TOF vs TOH and HOF vs HOH.

 

Tmac would be gifted free throws too if he didn't jack up so many long twos.

 

Nope.

T-Mac was more gifted, more athletic, he saw the floor better. That's gave him a huge advantage on offense, on rebounding and in AST/TO department

T-Mac was a league leader in +/- for four straight years in Orlando, when Shaq, KG and Duncan were all in their primes

He was over 30 in PER in his prime. He had 15'th best PER rating in NBA history

The only guys who were over 30 in PER even for once were Michael, Lebron, Wilt, D-Wade and David Robinson

James Harden is good and he is going to get better, but he is not on that level

 

It's hard to realise what that 30+ PER meter means

Kevin Durant is averaging 29.6 points per game + 7.4 rebs + 4.4 ast + 1.6 stl on 51.7/41.7/91.2 shooting AND HE IS STILL UNDER 30 IN PER on basketball-reference

That's just ridiculous

 

Doubt it. T-Mac was a machine, MVP considerations and in the discusion whether he or Kobe was better..

 

You don't just average 32 ppg for nothing.

 

Has TMac been pass the 1st round? No TMAC IS OVERRATED & its not like TMac had nobody sure it could of been better but he did have Yao, Battier, etc for most of his time here

 

You have Rockets and you have player only fans.

Rockets fans are significantly smarter than player only fans.

What is the definition of better? being on sportscenter? filling up stats?

I would prefer Does Harden have the potential to make the ROCKETS BETTER.

 

Sure if you chuck away.

 

Tmac in the playoffs from 01-05 average 30 points a game. Tmac and overrated doesn't belong in the same sentence. You are straight up delusional if you think tmac was overrated.

 

What about Tmac and never leading a team to a playoff series victory or Tmac never playing 80-82 games in a regular season?

What about averaging zero points in the 2nd round, conference finals, and nba finals?

 

Are you just basing that on stats or did you watch? Watch the jazz series, mavs or w.e

 

He played 16 yrs and never ONCE got past the 1st rd.
So what if he raised his avg in the playoffs. It still wasn't good enough to move on to the 2nd rd. NEVER in his ENTIRE career!!!

Why is it, when he was hurt in the playoffs while with Rockets, they beat Portland? WITHOUT HIM!!!!!!

He was a good player but wasn't the type of player who could make his team better in the playoffs. We're not talking about just a few yrs here......we're talking about a pretty long career.

 

And another thing, besides the Rockets trading for him early in his career, who are these other teams that sought him out because he was such a big star?

 

So that makes him overrated?

 

depends on your definition.

when you compare him to other greats for entire body of work, including team accomplishments as well as individual accomplishments. He's absolutely overrated if you dare put him the same sentence as Kobe or LeBron.

If you want to say he was the best statistical player in a weak Eastern Conference where he dominated the ball, yeah, you are right.

And staying healthy is a factor not an excuse.
Michael Jordan wouldn't be Michael Jordan if he DNPed, switched teams and was unhealthy like McGrady.

But he's not. He works and trains hard, even recovered from a BROKEN FOOT.

 

He showed up in both the mavs and jazz series. The problem was they had no help. There was one game against the jazz where only 4 players scored.

 

A leader leads his team, wills them to victory when facing adversity.