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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

  1. Yes :)

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  2. No :(

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  1. Karolik

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    TP's 3 point shooting got worse his first 4 years instead of improving and after a .395 percent 3 point shooting year in 2006 he dropped back to .25 percent. That concerns me. :(
     
  2. Knickskiller

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    Actaully Lin has a Tattoo on his head now from that collsion in game:eek:
     
  3. YoungGods

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    Congratulation!!! Lin is the King of stealing.:cool:
     
  4. conquistador#11

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    Asians are not supposed to rob! this aint Gran Torino, homes.
     
  5. Knickskiller

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    nice:cool::grin::);)
     
  6. SuperStar

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    And it's just that. Calvin Murphy's opinion. We have heard from McHale, Lin himself, Jason Friedman, etc that Lin needs to be more aggressive.
     
  7. roxxy

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    And all of those guys are just sharing there opinion. No single persons opinion is more valid than anothers. Everyone will just believe what they want to believe.
     
  8. SuperStar

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    Murphy's part about Lin needing the ball more is true and when he gets it he needs to play like he did against Utah.
     
  9. Falcao

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    They're not mutually exclusive. Has it occurred to you that even if Lin were the primary ballhandler, that he would still need to be more aggressive in that role?

    No one outside the team knows how McHale is instructing the team. Several players need to be more aggressive, including PPat, GSmith, JLin. "Being aggressive" is different than "be a Point Guard".
     
  10. choujie

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    Since Jeremy Lin is a joke, his upside has to be a funnier joke.
     
  11. choujie

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    Oops, wrong thread.
     
  12. SuperStar

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    I think what Roxxy was saying was that Calvin believes Lin just needs to handle the ball more and has nothing to do with him needing to be more aggressive. I could be wrong I dunno.
     
  13. Knickskiller

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    its fated choujie! like i said before . I am begaining to love this thread. It has a power to draw and contain, all the nastiness in this bbs. :cool:
     
  14. Rockets12

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    That's exactly why you're here then, right? :p kidding.

    As long as this LOF-LOH stuff stays in this thread Im ok with it. It's better to have one thread about it then it leaking to all the threads like it did earlier in the season
     
  15. DudeWah

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    There's a few things wrong with this.

    First off the sample size is from the past few games we've been winning. Lin has actually been doing incredibly well lately and doing the exact things I mentioned. So yes, in these games what I said is not applicable. I agree to that.

    Over the course of the year throughout quite a bit of games (there have been stretches where he has played amazingly and I thought he finally turned the corner) what I said does apply.

    For example: the losing streak; most of the entire month of november; etc.

    Secondly these are highlight vids. They don't show the plays where Lin has the opportunity to do something but nothing results from it. Which is my main concern.

    I mentioned a few posts ago about consistency. That is a main part of what I am talking about.

    As an aside, did you notice in the Jazz game he finally shot an off the dribble jump shot from the elbow when given space? Exactly what I have been wanting him to do all along. And then his drives became a lot easier. Crazy concept.
     
  16. duluth111222

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    of course. i fully agree with that. win or lose, coaches play a part, a big part at that.

    for the record, I'm not even a mchale fan myself. but i just don't think it's fair to blame solely on "coaches not using him right" every time he has a subpar game.

    take the spurs game as an example. let's pretend it's not a fluke. do you really believe the coaches would tell him to do whatever he wants to on the court because harden is absent, and then one game later tell him to tug his tail and behave in the corner just because harden is back? can you imagine that? i know i simply can't.

    to me it's all in his head. his mindset is different with and without a super star playing next to him. just like what happened last year after melo came back.
     
  17. roxxy

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    Doesn't matter you said

    I gave you 10+ examples. So therefore your entire statement that it hardly results in anything tangible is null & void.

    Here are some stats for you. If you want a full sample over the course of the entire season thus far

    Lin attempts 4.1 of his 10.3 shots at the rim converts on 2.1 of them. So close to half of his FGA are off of drives to the basket. That ranks him 13th amongst all PGs in the NBA.

    So yeah once again his drives do result in baskets for himself.

    http://www.hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx?team=%&type=pg&posi=PG&yr=2013&gp2=0&mins=0

    On passes Lin is top 11 of all PGs in passes leading to FGA at the rim 3 a game. So half of his 6 assits that he averages are born from drives to the basket.

    http://www.hoopdata.com/passingstats.aspx?team=%&type=pg&posi=PG&yr=2013&gp=0&mins=0

    So yeah once again his drives do result in baskets for his teammates
     
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    OK so i shouldn't trust lins own words, but i should trust Calvin, who's just a color commentator?

    before tinman jumps on me, i know hes a rox legend and all. but his opinion is not more trustworthy than that of feigen or friedman or even clutch himself. who knows. maybe he said that because he's eyeing for the coaching job, or a Chinese shoe deal, or sth... :)
     
  19. roxxy

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    Here are some more passing stats.

    Compare Lin & hardens total passes for close assists & dunk assists. Lin has more of both. So once again he is very good at assisting his teammates for baskets off of his drives.

    http://www.82games.com/1213/12HOU2.HTM#pstats

    http://www.82games.com/1213/12HOU6.HTM
     
  20. iJHolmes

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    I don't think thats nec true. I think its that the rockets are a good scoring team as much as it is lin passing the ball.

    If you watch the lasts game from Lins assists. many of those assists came from lin bringing up the ball. passing it off and someone taking it to the hoop and scoring. They weren't any special assists, we were just playing good as a team. So whoever the ball was passed to, we were scoring the ball. and Lin being point guard bringing up the ball is of course going to be the one to pass off to someone or even harden, which a lot of times will get the shot. So i dont think it has much to do with Lins passing ability, rather than him just being in the right spot at the right time.

    He did however have like 2-3 GOOD assists. that were actually good passes.
     

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