Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2012-13

Nearly untouchable.

Top class defense and developing offensive game.

Would have to take Harden to get him.

 

Redick is an unrestricted FA this summer. He's looking for a raise with the way he's playing this contract year. That means you'll have to waste Houston's cap space to re-sign him this summer (eligible for a max starting about $16.5M per year next year + 7.5% bird raises if you traded for him). That means Houston could lose cap flexibility to add another free agent or acquire that second superstar piece if they need to cut into cap space to re-sign him to a big contract this summer. And if you're not going to give him max, then you can just wait till the summer to bid for him on the free agent market, instead of spending assets to trade for him.

 

but who says we have to sign him in summer anyways. u can think this way that it was a way to have cap space for 2 star players in future.

 

In that case, all that trade accomplishes is a salary dump for Lin and getting zero assets back. In which case, you could probably do better by trading Lin for a 2nd rounder and taking nothing back. At least then you'd have a 2nd rounder, instead of being left with nothing when Redick leaves if you have no intention of re-signing Redick. Even trading just for draft rights to some old euro-stash who won't ever come over or cash would be better than being left with nothing. And you'd still accomplish the salary dump for cap space.

 

It's a large contract and the production isn't there to back it up. Other teams could view it with negative trade value.

 

That trade makes no sense for toronto. Trading a much better PG in Lowry for an inflated lin contract.

 

Yea but Lowrys peaked. And its not that impressive.

 

The production is there when he's allowed to play PG instead of SG. I'm sure there are some teams lacking a PG like the Jazz that would want him. If you're going to give him away for free, I'm sure there will be takers. And if you believe him to be negative trade value, then all you need to do is ask for nothing in return. Or if you really believe he's that hard to move, then send cash or a 2nd rounder along if you're that desperate to get rid of Jeremy. It would be easier than asking for Redick if you think Lin is negative trade value, since Redick isn't (expiring contracts have positive value).

 

I wasn't the one proposing the trade. Just responding to the flaws it it presented by the guy who did propose it.

 

Other teams don't see that, only Lin fans. They only know their scouts are doing their jobs and Lin has had trouble adjusting.

 

I'd take Lowry over Lin. Only problem with Lowry is He has been injured.

 

I'm pretty sure teams know their scouts fail at their jobs all the time, considering all the first round busts and all those good players who fall to the second round.

 

As i look the two best names i see that would fit with us are R.Anderson and E.Ilyasova, both hit 3's like crazy both and are solid rebounders and have good length - both 6'10. Both are young and recently signed to solid contracts, and would be seriously hard to get.

But, they would be a perfect fit. The only guy we have (were willing to trade) that might net us one of them would be Lin imo. I like lin, and wouldn't want to loose him, but he isn't a great fit and he could net us our perfect fit PF.

Next problem is both teams have solid PG's, Vasquez and Jennings. Jennings though, could jet in FA which might give us a chance. Vasquez is also 6'6 and can easily slide to the SG spot, but he and lin both need the ball and it wouldn't be that pretty.

So he our my miracle trade possibility's for one of these guys

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=agstknd
could alternate Paterson with morris, and Jones with Motie if they prefer...looks unrealistic but if they believe jennings could leave getting lin would be a good deal for them.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aah4q26
It really just depends how much these teams likes lin

Lin Pat and Jones to Bucks for Udrih, Ersan
Lin Patterson to Pelicans for Anderson, Roberts

Theres also numerous 3 teams trades that could work out, with lin going to the bucks, ersan coming here and jennings going somewhere else with additional assets going to the bucks - most realistic trade imo.

 

Whoops though i erased the nba trade machine links, nvm those. The 2 trades i wrote are the ones I'm going with as my trade idea's lol.

 

Maybe

Celtics- Jennings, Patterson and Aldrich
Rockets-Ersan, Beno
Bucks-Lin, Green and (Bradley or Lee)

I could imagine rondo and jennings playing together when rondo's back, rondo has the length to guard SG's and Jennings can play the role of a SG with his shooting while Rondo is the point.

 

Interesting. So what number do you think a PG with Lin's contract should put up.
including TO, Steal and Rebound.

 

Note that Memphis and Toronto are, as I expected, looking for a third team to get involved, so as trade Calderon (i.e., dump Calderon's salary) on that team: http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...ies_Searching_For_Third_Team_To_Take_Calderon

So, even if Houston decides to hold on to Jeremy Lin, it still makes sense for Houston to get involved, by executing the trade suggested above. Houston can just keep Calderon for the rest of the season. He's a really good player and will improve this team, and there's no long term obligations since his contract expires at the end of the season.

Another possibility is for Houston to involve a fourth team, Utah, which is a team badly in need of a PG (one of the few teams in the league that does not feel that it has an acceptable PG situation). Houston would obviously seek to send Calderon, a prospect (presumably either Marcus Morris, Donatas Motiejunas, or Terrence Jones) and filler (e.g. James Anderson) for Paul Millsap and filler (e.g., Raja Bell, Jamaal Tinsley).

 

I've noticed that many NBA fans do not understand the concept of "negative trade value." When a player is getting paid far in excess of what his production and/or potential suggests that he's worth, particularly when he has a contract that goes on for 2+ years, this player is worth less than zero. Teams would rather have nothing at all (i.e., cap space) than a player with negative trade value.

Courtney Lee has negative trade value. Nobody out there is willing to give up anything valuable or Lee. Nobody is even going to be willing to give up essentially nothing (an expiring contract) for Lee. So there is a 0% chance that Orlando is going to be interested in trading J.J. Redick, an expiring contract (plus a pretty good ballplayer) for Courtney Lee.

J.J. Redick for Jeremy Lin, straight up? I think Orlando might think about that one. Houston would have to think about that one, too, especially if Houston winds up getting involved on that Memphis-Toronto Rudy Gay salary dump and walks away with Jose Calderon. In this scenario, Houston would presumably also explore getting Utah involved, and may be interested in trading Redick and a prospect (Marcus Morris, Donatas Motiejunas, or Terrence Jones, most likely) for Paul Millsap and filler (e.g., Earl Watson's expiring contract).

Houston would unload Lin's contract (do they really want to have to pay this guy $15 mil in 2014-15?), upgrade at PG (Calderon > Lin), and upgrade at PF (Millsap > Patrick Patterson), and would only have to give up a second tier prospect in either Morris, Motiejunas, or Jones. Houston would probably want to hold on to Motiejunas and trade either Morris or Jones to Utah. Houston would presumably seek to re-sign Calderon to something like two years, $14 mil ($6 mil less than the $20 mil owed to Lin in 2013-14 and 2014-15) and Millsap to something like four years, $36-$44 mil, although both extensions would probably wait until the offseason.

Regardless, Daryl Morey is for sure talking to any number of teams right now about all sorts of players/possibilities.

 

Calderon expiring is available now due to raptors/grizzlies looking for trade partner

 

The amount of negative thought value on this thread is a spectacle.

Lin by his third contract year may be a good value at $15M.