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ClutchFans Game Thread: Nets @ Rockets 1/26/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. proudfoot

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    I don't really mind Lin's TOs because they generally come from two sources - charges and outlet passes.

    Charges aren't as bad as other TO's because, when turned over, they don't lead to a fastbreak. It's not a dangerous TO. Also, charges mean that Lin's being aggressive, and that if he made it to the rim, he has a high probability layup.

    Outlet passes are good as well - because in the event they aren't intercepted, it almost always leads to an easy layup. They can lead to a fast-break going the other way as well, but generally some Rockets stay behind and can sort of defend it.

    Secondly, the threat of his QB outlet pass forces opponents to get ready to run back in transition. This gets them out of rebounding position.
     
  2. ch0c0b0fr34k

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    I generally agree with you, but you forgot his third source of TOs - drives into double and triple teams that results in a clean steal for the other team. Also, indecisive passes many LOFs too often criticize Asik for not being able to catch (not saying he doesn't deserve blame).
     
  3. Jedster

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    Stomped his feet? :p

    Thanks for the reply!
     
  4. rokit

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    haven't seen him do that in a long time... i might be wrong though.
     
  5. roxxy

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    I agree those are annoying. Same with the turnovers because he traveled when driving & he shuffles his feet. All in all Lin & Harden are going to do dumb stuff & turn the ball over. As long as they get better in the long run.
     
  6. YoungGods

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    A Net fan talked about Jeremy Lin, Rockets and McHale after the game:

    "Jeremy Lin barely attempted a shot in the first 3 quarters, he was more focused on getting his teammates the ball making sure everyone was on their toes and involved. He kept the offense flowing and dominated on fast breaks flowing and dominating fast breaks; while the Nets as well as the Knicks do isolation's and 1 on 1. Jeremy Lin plays the style of ball that the old Knicks used to play with Frazier, Bradley, Debuschure and in showed as a rookie last year the kind of court savvy that can lead a team to a championship. When you look at the Rockets they have a bunch of nobodys really and should not have any business whipping the Nets and the Knicks, they are certainly being taken to school by their youth and being outcoached by Kevin Mchale."
     
  7. kozmo

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    NO KIDDING>>>>>>
     
  8. ch0c0b0fr34k

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    Well, he had one against the Nets :) Drove, got stopped by the defender, whirled around and got clean-stripped by Watson, I believe it was.
     
  9. Cynops

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    Yeah, and I think I remember he had one in the Hornets game too, not too sure. But those have been going down though.
     
  10. Nook

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    He probably never will play like that again, and to expect him to his not realistic or fair.
     
  11. roxxy

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    I disagree with this. I don't see him averaging 18 & 8 like he did in NY. But I think if he gets his shooting back to what it was in NY I don't see why he can't hit the shots he was hitting in NY again.

    I could care less about how many points he gets up I just want him to be a better shooter. And he is averaging 6 assists this season & he has so many areas to improve his passing game particularly on the PNR, I wouldn't be surprised if his assist numbers went up slowly over time.

    So yeah I kind of disagree.
     
  12. Nook

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    You are qualifying your response. I think that Lin can become a borderline all star if things break his way, but I do not believe you will see peak Linsanity again.
     
  13. kozmo

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    I think he can easily be a 20 and 10 guy.... he would be approaching 10 right now if he had a big that could catch the ball.... he has proven he can score 20 and if he would be a little more selfish he would hit that 20 consistant....

    By the way Lin had a couple of clunkers in that losing streak but generally has playinge pretty well
     
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    I see no reason why he can't. This is only his first full season as an NBA starting point guard.
     
  15. roxxy

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    What do you mean I am qualifying my response? You have lost me.

    I will try & be more clear in my response.

    First of all the Spurs game he had this year was better than any game he played last year (Lakers Mavs Utah etc). That was probably the best game of his entire career thus far. So we have already seen him play at that "Linsanity" leve in Houston.

    No I doubt we will see him doing what he did at his peak in NY last year ( those 7 or 8 games). As long as he is playing alongside Harden that won't happen & justifiably so.

    But I wouldn't be surprised if once in a while he has a game like he did against the Spurs where he plays brilliantly but for that to happen Harden would have to be sitting out. But is he capable to doing what he did at his peak (that first week in NY) where he was averaged 20 & 10 for an entire season no hell no. But we don't need that.

    What I am hoping (fingers crossed) happens next season is that he goes back to hitting 32% from deep therefore the rest of his game gets opened up & he can start hitting those midrange shots & those deep 3 jumper off the dribbles to beat the buzzer again.

    That was what made him so effective last year he was a confident & reasonably consistent shooter. He just needs to get back to that & then we will see him hitting those shots he was so good at hitting last year in NY.

    The Linsanity thing is all irrelevant to me I just want him to hit shots with the same confidence he did last year. Will he average 18 points like he did in NY? No because I don't see him taking 16 shots. But if he figures out his shooting I don't see why he can't go back to hitting the shots in Houston that he was hitting in NY.

    Hopefully that makes sense.
     
  16. zdrav

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    20-10 would make him as good as Chris Paul at his peak.

    You simply do not know what you're talking about.
     
  17. Cynops

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    A more realistic expectation from Lin would be 15 and 8, which would be excellent already. He's not gonna hit 20 and 10, which was Nash's numbers I think when he got MVP, especially not in this system, playing with James Harden.
     
  18. SuperStar

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    lol yes yes we know koz we know.
     
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    C'mon LAC, you can beat Portland!
     
  20. iconoclastic

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    I think the best statistics Lin can put up playing next to Harden for an entire season, where Lin is aggressive and much improved in dribbling, decision making, and shotmaking, is 18 and 9.
     

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