Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2012-13

Remember in the summer when you guys said Brook Lopez was trash...LOL egg on face



Oh and that 3 way trade...Hickson is the 4th or 5th option in Portland behind Aldridge, Batum & Lillard and he is avg. 13 ppg and 12 rpg Morey loves guys who are undervalued with promising future...so whats the problem???

so if he was a 3rd option he will be an 18 ppg 14 rpg

 

Your logic sucks.

 

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I agree... he is benefitting from the cast around him... he is over-achieving imo

 

Two pre-deadline trades:

Trade #1

Pau Gasol and filler/expiring contracts/junk (Devin Ebanks, Darius Morris, Robert Sacre) to Houston

Jeremy Lin and Royce White to Utah

Alec Burks, Patrick Patterson, and expiring contracts (Mo Williams, Cole Aldrich, Toney Douglas) to L.A.

Utah gets its point guard of the present and future in exchange for a prospect they have seemingly given up on (Burks) and Williams' expiring contract. Utah also agrees to take on White, which isn't much of a commitment, really; if they decide they don't like him, they don't have to exercise his 2014-15 option, so he'd be off the books after next season.

L.A. gets Burks (could be a good role player in Mike D'Antoni's system, we'll see), Patterson (probably a good role player in D'Antoni's system and off the books after the 2013-14 season), expiring contracts, and significant short-term (2012-13) and medium-term (2013-14) cap/tax relief (since Houston is able to absorb so much salary here with its current cap space). L.A.'s 2013-14 payroll is reduced by $14 mil with this trade. Guys, that's significant.

Houston gets Gasol, unloads the disappointing Lin, unloads White, and gives up nothing of any real value. Their summer 2013 cap space is gone (or at least mostly gone), so that's the trade-off. Gasol is really good, so I think it's a worthwhile trade-off.

Trade #2

Marcin Gortat to Houston

Omer Asik to Phoenix

Phoenix gets the younger (but less productive!) Asik. The Suns are obviously going nowhere and Gortat is older than you think (turns 29 on February 17). And Asik isn't that much younger (he turns 27 on July 4), so he's really only two years, 4.5 months younger than Gortat. A 26-year-old player is very likely as good as he's ever going to get. And, again, Gortat is the better player. Also, Gortat's contract is not only exceedingly reasonable BUT it expires at the same time as Gasol's contract (i.e., the end of the 2013-14 season). So you'd have a ton of cap flexibility during the summer of 2014.

Revised roster

Starting lineup

PG Patrick Beverly
SG James Harden
SF Chandler Parsons
PF Marcin Gortat
C Pau Gasol

Key reserves: Carlos Delfino, Marcus Morris, Greg Smith, Mystery Free Agent PG (minimum salary guy; it's easy to find solid backup PGs for cheap)

End of the bench (little or not P.T.): James Anderson, Devin Ebanks, Darius Morris, Robert Sacre

Developmental League: Donatas Motiejunas, Terrence Jones

Gortat is a huge upgrade at PF, Gasol is a huge upgrade at C. It's not clear what Houston will get from Beverly but I suspect folks may be pleasantly surprised. He's probably not a long-term solution at PG, though, so don't get your hopes up.

Offseason

Sign Jose Calderon to a three- or four-year deal and hand him the starting PG job. This means that your nine-man rotation in 2013-14 would look the same as the above nine-man rotation except you'd be replacing Beverly with Calderon (big upgrade) and the mystery free agent PG pickup with Beverly (probably also an upgrade). Ebanks, Morris, and Sacre are all allowed to walk. Houston probably doesn't do anything fancy to replace these three scrubs.

 

I dont like it... asik is younger with more potential and its debateable about impact each made whos is bigger... im not against getting pau but i am worried about spacing although im not so much anti-pau as i once was and would like it...

A core of gortat/pau/harden isnt as exciting or potential fulfilled as lin/harden/asik... and although i dont speak about or join any of the lin debates ive never been much a fan and doubted him his whole linsanity run... but the truth is the potential is there, maybe thats his ceiling... but im willing to run with that over beverley... asik with potential over prime/ceiling gortat and an againg pau...

 

Again, Asik is 26 years old. He's as good as he's going to get. Gortat is a lot better than Asik.

 

Why not put both of them together. We could have the lesser twin towers.

 

I wish i knew where the graph was... but players have two peaks, 26 where thats around thier average, and they increase untill they stop which is thier prime, avg age 28-29... where at gortats prime and hes not all that much better... given hardens age ill go with the younger player who is ELITE defensively... gortat is above average across the board but he doesnt possess the potential to take us over the top... he is maxed... asik can still improve... besides gortat started a few seasons already and we know what we would get, this is asiks first season starting...

I like gortat but not at the expense of asik...

 

^Agree with above, Asik is better than Gortat. It's easier to improve the lower your skill level is, Asik is already elite offensively but if he puts in the work he'll have an easier time going from horrible offensively to decent offensively than Gortat who has to improve from decent offensively/defensively to elite.

One guy I'd really like to get though is Ryan Anderson. He just seems to be a consistent stretch 4 and that's the kind of guy we need on the squad. Even in this game he was 0-5 from the 3 pt land but he still got 19 pts on 12 shots. If we can't get Love I'd really like this guy to he our 2nd option, he'll also be way cheaper than Love both acquisition and salary wise.

 

Id love anderson... the problem is noh is holding onto him for no.reasson when they ahould trade him... hes perfrct for this team and scheme

 

I really like Anderson's game too and would like to see the Rockets get him but I am not sure if he would really improve our squad THAT much. Plus, who knows what it would take to get him. If it only cost Morris or Patterson, that would be fine but I don't want to see someone like Parsons get moved in a trade for him (don't think that would happen anyway).

Now if we could move someone like Patterson and 2nd Rd. Pick for Anderson then turn around and trade Asik, Morris, Motiejunas for Howard I would definitely be down with that.

P.G. - Lin / Beverely
S.G. - Harden / Douglas
S.F. - Parsons / Delfino
P.F. - Anderson / Jones
...C. - Howard / Smith

That's a pretty solid 10-man rotation which is about as much as would be used in any playoff series and the best part is they are all young (except Delfino)

 

I like it, that's a playoff team with basically no one except Harden and rookie contracts in 2014. Better team, better salary situation.

 

Probably get rid of Royce White to Utah part, though. Utah part in general seems the shakiest to me. They have a ton of cap space, they could target a better point guard than Lin. I wonder if they'd take Lin for Burks+expirings, and especially if you add White.

 

Houston acquires LeBron James and Mario Chalmers

Miami receives Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, Chandler Parsons, Patrick Patterson, and future 1st round picks

Heat:
PG- Jeremy Lin
SG- Dwayne Wade
SF- Chandler Parsons
PF- Chris Bosh
C- Omer Asik

Rockets:
PG- Mario Chalmers
SG- James Harden
SF- LeBron James
PF- Marcus Morris
C- Greg Smith

I will die a happy man.

 

That would be like the Bulls trading Jordan.... Not going to happen. I wish, but not seeing it happen

 

First

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a3jrtmt
Chicago gives us a first round pick for the troubles.



Orlando wants young players on rookie contracts for Redick. Pacers want Redick but dont fit the bill. We send first round pick from Bulls to Pacers.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=al6eum4

Lin/Beverley
Harden/Hamilton
Granger/Hamilton
Parsons/Patterson
Asik/Smith

 

So as a first option he would have 28 ppg and 18 rpg. Great lets trade for him

 

Byron Mullens, 2013 FA, for back up center position

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZFrOii_IuY

 

The best course of action, in my opinion, would be to pass on Gasol, hold onto Omer Asik, and to execute this simple trade:

Patrick Patterson and Donatas Motiejunas to Phoenix; Marcin Gortat and Sebastian Telfair to Houston

Gortat is a huge upgrade over Patterson, and Motiejunas may or may not ever pan out, and is unlikely to crack the rotation either this season or next season. Houston would then have Gortat on board for next season (his contract expires at the end of next season) and would still have plenty of cap space this summer to pursue Paul Millsap or maybe someone even better than Millsap. A trade for Gortat is a very obvious, straightforward, and uncomplicated move, unlike many of the trades suggested here.

Alternatively, Houston could instead trade Marcus Morris (rather than Donatas Motiejunas), and promote either Motiejunas or Terrence Jones to take Morris' spot in the rotation.

Revised roster

Starting lineup

PG Jeremy Lin
SG James Harden
SF Chandler Parsons
PF Marcin Gortat
C Omer Asik

Key reserves: Carlos Delfino, Greg Smith, Marcus Morris, Patrick Beverly/Toney Douglas

End of the bench (little or no P.T.): Patrick Beverly/Toney Douglas, Cole Aldrich, Sebastian Telfair, James Anderson

Developmental league: Terrence Jones, Royce White

Obviously Houston shops around guys who it doesn't think will be on the roster past this season (Douglas, Aldrich, Telfair, maybe Delfino) just to see if they can trade any of these guys for a second round pick. Maybe somebody would be willing to trade a late first round pick for Delfino, who has been awfully good, but I doubt it. If somebody is offering an early second round pick for Delfino, you have to make that deal if you're Houston.

Houston gets better by trading for Gortat this season and very likely makes the playoffs (where their young players would get valuable playoff experience, and the team can generate additional revenue), and is in a position to get a LOT better next season by adding a Paul Millsap via free agency or trade, which would give you a truly outstanding three-man frontcourt rotation of Millsap-Gortat-Asik. If Jeremy Lin continues to develop then the Rockets should win 55 or so ballgames in 2013-14.