Feinstein calls for banning more than 150 types of firearms, including pistols and shotguns.

Uh, so-called "stand-your-ground" laws have literally nothing to do with the Virginia Tech tragedy; good to know you would use your years of FPS experience to take out all intruders. Can you fly up here to protect me? I'll pay $5.25/hour and you can sleep in the building gym (I will give you the combination, it is 24-3)

 

"Finicky" and "unreliable" are not that much different. I mean if my car is finicky but I need to drive my wife in labor to the hospital then we are taking another car.

Anyway what is the point of having a finicky weapon if your life is depending on it? If anything your argument is more evidence why these weapons should be banned from the perspective that they aren't that good for self-defense.

Y'all seem to want to have it both ways. Well these things aren't that lethal so don't ban them. These things are great for shooting people in self defense so don't ban them..

Once again you act like this is an either or proposition in fact my own proposal would be to tax guns and ammunition much higher so we have more resources to deal with those other issues like mental health.

 

If you don't think a crazy person with a Bushmaster .223 is more dangerous than a crazy person with a .44 magnum, I don't know what else to say. You cannot be reasoned with.

I am not saying you are a libertarian, but you sure sound like one. To hell with how things play out in reality! It looks good on paper!

 

I've always said that pure libertarianism is like pure communism. It looks good on paper, but you either get screwed by the rich or the poor (respective). Pick your poison.

 

Clearly anti-semetism, repugs should be ashamed.

 

Much much lower. Cho planned this out in detail. He scoped out the rooms and once he decided on his killing zone, he locked three of the main doors. He herded them into a killing zone.

I don't know about you, but I would be at least a little suspicious of a guy walking around locking doors with any type of rifle in his hands. With handguns, he was able to hide them into his bag until he was ready to begin his killing spree.

Lanza had to shoot his way through a locked door to get into the building. By then, everyone in the school was aware of shots being fired. Many kids lives were saved because they were able to hide. It would have been much worse if he had made it to the kids first undetected.

Despite rifles being more powerful, there is a reason why they contribute to much lower percentage of deaths than handguns.

 

I think you need to take a moment and actually read a post before replying. I made no comparison to the experience of gun owners and law enforcement. I stated law enforcement is having trouble finding ammo also.

I also did not imply only inexperienced people were buying guns and ammo. Everyone is buying ammo, but its a fact that there is a big uptick in first time buyers.

 

Your video is even dumber...so in the simulation the gunman enters a room full of people and immediately approaches the only concealed carry holder and fires. Just watch the 7:03 mark...he lets a guy go right in front of him and instead goes straight for the concealed carry guy. That's not reality...its major network media trying to feed you its agenda. Of course this ***** isn't as reliable as credible research and of course liberals will eat it up.

 

It doesn't matter. Even if the shots were going after other people, the folks carrying guns weren't even really close to getting it out in time.

Wasn't there an armed person in the theater in the Colorado shooting? That seemed to go more like the video you are decrying and saying is unrealistic.

 

You must be deaf and blind. When he enters the room, you hear the click of him firing at the teacher. He then turns to the front of the room where the only moron not trying to run away is trying to pull his gun out and then gets shot. You can't reason with paranoid freaks who think everything (the media) is conspired against them.

 

I've watched the video before...yes he shoots at the teacher but he had the opportunity to shoot a target a foot in front of him and instead opts to go straight for the CC holder. Please explain that fact...

 

You mean the shooter opts to shoot the person taking a gun out right in front of him? How about the second instance when the shooter shoots several times at other people before firing at the girl that is standing right in front of him trying to get her gun? Or the third instance? How about the police talking about the training they receive to fire under pressure? We'll just disregard all of that for the gung ho yahoos who would perform like a trained professional and kill the gunman. Makes sense to me.

 

In the second example you can't even see the CC holder trying to pull out the gun from the shooters view. Are you seriously trying to argue that this was some sort of legit experiment? It's obvious that the "perp" knew who was carrying and targeted them. The CC is in the same spot (front and center) every time lol. If you watch that video objectively you know that's what happened and that's just not realistic.

 

We should ban Feinstein.

 

Apparently not:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news...ey-mountain-states-concealed-carry/56394526/1

Coincidentally, that was the only gun free zone theater within 20 minutes of James Homes' apartment.

Either way, if you are trying to analogize that simulation with the theater shooting it would be more like if he knew exactly who was concealed carrying and their exact location when he walked in the door. He would have then targeted those people first before shooting up the rest of the theater.

 

I'm not arguing which is more dangerous I'm saying no matter what he carried children huddled in a corner would have been no match. Far more people are murdered in the us with pistols than rifles so obviously they are deadly enough.

In short the assault weapon ban is stupid and would not make us any safer.

Fwiw a .44mag at close range is far more deadly than a .223. Ask Clint Eastwood.

 

Thanks for clearing that up. I'd heard there was even though the theater was a gun free zone. But I hadn't really checked into it, so I wasn't sure. Now I know.

As for the simulation, whether the shooter targeted the concealed carry people unrealistically doesn't matter. The fact is that they weren't prepared, and weren't able to get their weapons out regardless. It's not like they realized they'd been hit and then decided to stop trying. They didn't know they'd been hit until the end of the simulation.

But I will say if a gunman comes in some place and it looks like a person is reaching for a weapon which all of the concealed students in the video did, there is little doubt he'd try and take them out first.

But whether or not he'd shoot them first or shoot them last, the fact remains that they couldn't get their weapons out under the pressure.

 

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