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[Y Sports Radio] Calvin Murphy: Jeremy Lin Needs The Ball In His Hands

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bball7, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. kcal

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    Damn, you have a black heart.
     
  2. OpportunityCost

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    I have always hoped that somehow one day Calvin Murphy could be the Rockets head coach. He has a great basketball mind. When he was commentating, despite his horrible sense of style and dressing at that time, he always gave astute insights into the game.
     
  3. torocan

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    Nope. Tonight he was free to direct the offense for the most part, and mixed in the odd ISO for Harden when he had a mismatch or was in a good position to score.

    One of the nicer sequences was Lin passed to Harden, Harden checked his man who was in good position to defend and passed it back to Lin, Harden's defender shifted giving Harden a chance at a better angle of attack, and Lin passed it right back to Harden who immediately drove right past his defender in for an And 1 before he could react.
     
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    Oh he was totally told to hand the ball off to Harden in that 7 game losing streak. That offense sucked so badly, it's difficult to fathom. They played like this tonight, they win. It's weird seeing everyone say that Lin was not "aggresive" enough or "passive." It's like dude! He was told that! Beverly was doing that all day long.
     
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    I know you're being sarcastic, but Calvin calls it as he sees it. He's not like Worrell who can be really bias. Also, based off of his insights in the past I would say he is also very credible.
     
  6. kcal

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    Cal's loud suits, the fact that he's under 6' tall, as well as a closet LOF being paid off by the taiwanese gov't and by a handful of rich LOF's totally discredit him. It's a conspiracy.




















    Sarcasm, guys. Don't get mad.
     
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    Calvin Murphy is a Rockets fan and he's telling the truth.
     
  8. Clutch

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    It's weird seeing people say Lin was more "aggressive" on a night where he had a career high in steals?

    Honestly, you should go back and watch the first quarter of the Nuggets game. The ball is in Lin's hands... many, many times. This isn't all the fault of McHale and/or Harden.
     
  9. torocan

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    On the other hand, when you see Beverly doing the same thing for 6 consecutive possessions (dump the ball to Harden at half court), it raises questions.

    You can only blame Lin and Harden to a degree. Yes, they're players and responsible for what they put on the floor, on the other hand, if McHale sees something he doesn't like, it's incumbent on him as the Head COACH to make it clear exactly how he would like the offense to operate.

    So, whether intentionally or through Neglect, the result and responsibility is the same, it falls on McHale and Co.

    That's the point that Murphy was trying to make. IE, if he's Not telling Lin to dump it off to Harden to initiate the offense, then he needs to make absolutely clear to the team that the offense should primarily be initiating through Lin.

    That's why the Coach gets the blame for Offensive AND Defensive break downs. Not for any single game, but because when you see it happening over significant stretches that IS within the power of the Coaches to influence, either through speaking to Lin, Harden or the entire team.

    And the Coaches 100% get the blame for the rotations. They decide to play Harden 41 minutes in blow outs. They decide how much to stagger the minutes.

    No, the Coaches can't do everything, but they can demand that the offense and defense unfold in a specific way and hold players accountable when it doesn't unfold in the way they want.
     
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    There's always tons of possibilities, but how likely of a possibility is it?

    It's possible that Harden is hogging so much because he's going for the scoring title, but not likely(It's more likely that he is instructed to do so by the coaches).
    It's also possible that the reason that McHale doesn't run many set plays is because Morey has instructed him not to. Now it is POSSIBLE, but HIGHLY unlikely.

    Now onto Calvin Murphy. You're saying the "LOF logic got to him". First, where did this LOF moniker start? Or where is this big forum where the "LOFs" vs "LOHs" endlessly debate each other? On ClutchFans. So are we also saying that Calvin Murphy is on ClutchFans after every game debating or getting his ideas, or being influenced by the "LOFs" on ClutchFans. Once again, I think this is highly unlikely. Calvin Murphy, IMO, has been giving great basketball insights for as along as I have heard him speak about basketball.

    I think this is more of a case of him saying something that you don't feel comfortable with, so you have to find some way to dismiss it, like, "he was just influenced" "or brainwashed by LOFs" because this can't be his own idea.
     
  11. OpportunityCost

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    I co-sign this.
     
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    Lin has a 2.0 A:TO ratio this season, Harden 1.4. Thats hardly "very small".
     
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    Being aggressive doesn't always translate to shooting more, its driving in the lane and keeping the defense on its feet. It opens up the floor so much for everyone.

    Holding that Lin and PPat keep this up I am quite optimistic.
     
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    Ditto!
     
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    Nah ... Murphy is either a LOF or he learned his analysis from the LOFs here.

    Sarcasm ...
     
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    Very good.
     
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    Who was that who said that "Rockets Fans" are not biased, and "Lin Only Fans" are biased, and therefore all of their opinion not valid (even well-supported opinions, like torocan's, whom he named)?

    So are Calvin Murphy's opinions now considered biased and not valid? Because he "may have been influenced by a LOF"?

    Think about how actually twisted that logic is above. Dei has not seen Calvin talk to a Lin fan, nor heard discussions about this by Calvin and a Lin fan. He completely pulls this whole scenario out of his ass because Calvin seems to be supprting Lin.

    This is really on a level (I'm not exaggerating) of the truthers or other conspiracy theorists.
     
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    I am also pleased that Calvin doesn't care about constructively criticizing even the coach. Bill Worrell, Clyde, Bullard, Feigen or other Chronicle columnists; I could never see them saying this. I feel like they're always towing the company line and will instead shift the blame to a less judgemental source such as; it's the defense that needs to get better and then that will solve what ails the team. True the defense NEEDS to get better, but it is definitely not the only or main thing ailing this team.
     
  19. Roxs

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    torocan is Calvin Murphy?
     
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    something i still don't understand is the beverley / TD rotations. was beverley thrown in because mchale sees PG as our weakest position (i.e. you fix this, and we'll be ok)? is it because jeremy and harden can't play together? something in the background?

    mchale seems pretty conservative in giving the rookies game time - don't think dmo, terence jones or james anderson will have much opportunity this year...

    the two don't seem to go together. if you're conservative about unproven players, why the initial preference for beverley over TD?
     

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