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What do you think will happen to you when you die?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    It's very likely that your inherent components, which are billions of years old, will be brooken down and become part of another organism...likely part of another human being.

    What we are is the sum of the living neural synapses in our brains and body supported by everything else that keeps it protected and fed. Death is merely the end of that structure. Our thoughts and memories are completely gone as they are encoded in the cellular connections.

    Outside of that, we are merely stardust.
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    Would be interesting if one could take a "snapshot" of the whole "RAM"/"ROM" and save it. Next step would then be to use that "snapshot" and re-start it outside the human body that kept it going before that person died.
     
  3. Invisible Fan

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    ^I've thought about this a lot after watching Ghost in the Shell. Your identity is a mixture of your "soul" (memories, experiences, sufferings) and your body.

    It's like water inside a pitcher.

    Change that body, you change who you originally were.

    Now some may say that your body constantly changes and fails on you as you age. But those physical scars and pains are readily identifiable with the soul. It's a much different effect than changing a flat tire.

    Almost "spiritual", but with technological advancement as it is, a very real question in half a century.
     
  4. hairyme

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    This sort of thinking is puzzling to me. From my perspective, It seems you either do not fully comprehend not existing (at least, as best as we can) or... you are just crazy?

    I know that may sound insulting, but I don't actually mean it like that. I am curious as to your reasons behind your feelings though.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    And that would be a facsimile though - a different entity. You could make 8 copies for instance - and all would believe merely that they had been transferred, not copied.

    Really makes you think - what we think of as our identities is an illusion.
     
  6. fadeaway

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    I think it will be like a deep, black, dreamless sleep. No conception of the passage of time.
     
  7. Deckard

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    So you would just fade away.
     
  8. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Seems to me the first question to ask is why do we exist? As that may help us model quantitatively with an integral what is next after death. Of course, nobody knows the answer as to why we exist. But at this point in time I would ask my self what do we know; I 'd ask,

    1. what collective impact have we had on the physical universe over the time and distance of life?
    2. What have we collectively created that did not exist before, over the time and distance of life?
    3. What collective impact have we had on the quantum world over time and distance?

    1. We don't seem to have any collective impact whatsoever on the universe, Galaxy, or solar system that we cam measure. We have had a collective impact on the earth. Seemingly warming it. And changing the chemical composition.

    2. Seems to me we have collectively created very little that does currently already exist in the universe, except those intagible forces like love, faith, hope. Language. thought. subconscious. A mechanism for passing information through genetics. Things that did not seem to exist before life. All the rest of it seemed to exist before life in some form or another.

    3. what impact have we had on the quantum and molecular worlds. I could not even imagine if and what our collective influence may be, but I think it would be hard to argue we have no impact whatsoever on that existence. But perhaps more interesting to me than that is any collective influence that the quantum world may have had on us over this period of human existence, because that may assist with an answer to question 1.

    So if we cam measure and model someday what we collectively impact over time and distance, then it would seem to me we could model and predict what will happen to us after the point of death, because we either continue to fill that purpose, or we exhaust the assistance of that process as an individual, or as a collective force.

    I do not think the idea that what we were before life equates to what we will be after life. I think physics will contradict that. We existed. And so something fills the area under that curve over time and distance. And that area under the curve means that we not only continue to exist in the form of the area left, say genetic information, but also in the form that a model likely predicts as our continued existence.

    I believe there is an afterlife. I belive we are multiplying forces and energy in life, and thar our death continue that process. Energy may not be conserved. it may be amplified.
    Life is likely not the slow withering away process we may envision it to be, but rather like a black hole, an accumulation process. Is that not a better description of what is happening over our life. We accumulate stuff. We accumulate information. And this information is condensed in such a way that move into the next form of conducting that energy, force, and mechanic.

    I cannot deny that the body appears to deconstruct and die. Alzheimers being an example. But for me, that may only be a form of moving that condensed information and knowledge, and energy into the next form in which it must exist.

    I hate to quote Brad Pitt here, but in the movie Troy, the girls asks him what he wants, and he says to the girl, I want what every man wants, more. And I think this is why we exist. To accumulate. And that accumlation process leads to our purpose.
     
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    You believe you are a star professional athlete who deserves a starting job, despite much evidence to the contrary. Your faith IS strong.
     
  10. bongman

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    To me, unless we get wiped out by ourselves or a natural event, I am almost certain that in the future, living forever will be an option. I think we already have an idea on how we are going to go about it.

    A. High Availability and DR solution like we do with our IT infrastructure.
    Cloning - You can clone a few 20 year old copies of yourself and store it in catatonic state until you need to use it.

    Memory backup - We are already using 'cloud technology' so the only thing we are missing is the ability to read all the I/O activity of the brain and be able to interpret the data (like an OS).

    In an event that your current body fails to function, get one of the clones, restore the backup info of your brain. Just like nothing happened.

    B. Ability to force cells to regenerate.
    The reason why all our organs deteriorate as we get older is because the ability to reproduce cells gets slower as we mature and it can get to the point were it is unable to so. If can somehow find a way to jumpstart the cell creation process, the term 'age' will be a thing of the past. You can look as young as you want forever.
     
  11. RocketRaccoon

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    Enormous respect so I'm always surprised when I see you hauling hate from another thread or just offering it for no real reason.


    As for me, I went from being a staunch atheist to a God loving, A Course In Miracles/Urantia toting, new ager, to someone who found balance between the two. I believe all dogs go to heaven…metaphorically speaking. I believe the grays are us in the distant future. I believe the expansion of this universe is just a single pulse. And lastly, all dogs go to heaven.
     

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