As of right now, is Lin one of the worst starting PG's in the NBA?

...Except Steve Nash could shoot - even as a rookie he was firing at almost 42% from three. Lin's strongest suits are not scoring related. I do think KM could do a vastly better job with offensive schemes that would improve Lin's play but clearly if you consistently miss wide open jumpers from all over the floor it's at least partially on *you.

 

The only chance of him getting that opportunity is if he:

1) Played on a team without a wing player better than him
2) Played with Kevin Durant.

In other words, non-contending teams. Unless of course, he plays on a team with a dominant big man but without a high caliber wing player. Those teams don't really exist.

 

Why doesnt he just dribble everytime before he shoots it?

 

I am a Knicks fan watched every game throughout Linsanity. There are many reasons Jeremy tore up the league for 2 weeks

1) Pick and Roll: Although Melo was out, Lin had pick and roll bigs with Chandler and Amare when he wasn't injured. Chandler is one of the best screeners in the league and can help create the seperation needed to get free

2) Novak in the corner: Novak was hitting 3's at almost a 50% clip last year, this created more spacing for Lin to work.

3) Driving to the Right: It took scouts a couple of weeks to figure out that Lin drives right, teams were getting smarter and forcing him to his left

4) Lin was hitting his shots: Jeremy was hitting 47-50% during the streak, its very possible Lin shoots better when he has the ball in his hands more often.

The guys on this board who say Lin is better than Felton are crazy, the Knicks were on a .750 clip and the Knicks haven't beaten anyone since he got hurt. However, Felton benefits for having a high pick and roll screener like Chandler and took an overweight point guard into 17/8 over the first two months of the season. Asik is a defensive god, but i doubt Omar will ever be the P/R thread that Tyson is.

If Mchale wants to use his personnel to succeed, Lin should be first guard off the bench and should be allowed to drive. However, if Lin can't hit at 45% clip, he won't succeed because every team in the NBA is going to pack the paint as they need Parsons as a spacer.

In Summary, Linsanity was a combination of the perfect storm from the P/R Big, to the hot shooting and being handed the keys in D'antoni's PG system. Lin also needs some personnel to help him succeed which im not sold he has right now his skill set is a poor fit for the team as it is currently constructed.

 

so true, I was thinking the same thing, lol.

 

Knicks fans are always overrating their players, wish HOU fans could be like that, ha! Felton is not better than Lin. Lin on the Rockets is like Felton on the Trailblazers - coaching staff doesn't trust the player, player doesn't play well(for whatever reason), and then player has a below avg season. In fact, Felton had an even s.hittier stats than Lin prior to Mcmillan getting canned. There were countless Knicks fans ripping on Felton during his time in Den and Portland BUT now that he's on the Knicks, he's this awesome player. Yeah, okay.

There are quite a few Knicks fans (I know you see the criticism from fans who aren't as high on Felton as you are) who continue to say that Felton has tunnel vision, calls his number too much (doesn't he have more shot attempts than points?!), and his bulldog D is overrated -- couldn't even stay in front of Lin, who's not even considered a quick guard.

Lin's NOT an all star player but it's not delusional to think that he's better than Felton.

 

Both Felton and Lin are the type of PGs that do well in a D'Antoni-styled offense but I think Lin is better at it than Felton because I think Lin has slightly better court vision and a better finisher at the rim.

On the flip side, I think Felton would do a better job in the role Lin has on this Rockets team because he can shoot 3's better and his game is suited to play in a fast-paced offense. Although like Lin, he plays his best in a P&R offense.

 

I don't think it's a fundamental thing to do. Getting a set shot up is a lot quicker than taking a dribble and letting the opponent close in on your shot. Also I notice Rocket players tend to pump fake open 3s too often, drive, and gets called for the travel.

 

I disagree, most of feltons 3's this year comes from off the dribble... he is not good at set shot 3.

if felton was playing here I would only see 2 things:
1. he will suck because his set 3's are not falling
2. he will be booed for taking too many shots and not passing the ball to harden.

either way its either same or worse...

 

This x1000.. for someone with such a high IQ.. he has very low bball IQ... Brain dead passes... numerous long 2s... traveling... oblivious turnovers... scared to take the open shot while instead taking an even worse one.

In just a few games with limited PT.. Beverly has shown more sensible IQ outside of a couple bad fouls for being too aggressive... actually reminiscent of a young Lowry tbh.

 

This is so odd. Talk about knee jerk. When Mchale talks about guys who know how to read the game/have a feel for the game, he mentions Harden and Lin. You kind of have to have bbiq to know how to read/anticipate. And if Mchale's including Lin in the same breath as Harden, that's a pretty good thing.

 

Wow, I have to disagree completely. Lin is a smart player. So is Harden, Asik, and Parsons. It's one of the reasons why I'm so high on this team.

One specific example, wish I could remember the exact game, Lin was bringing the ball up the court and everyone on the defense expected Lin to call a timeout and the defense stopped playing. Lin then proceed to blow by the defense and hit a layup. The game was on NBA TV, I remember that much and the commentators both here and on NBA TV were talking about it.

Anyway, Lin hasn't been playing well. It doesn't mean his BB IQ has dropped.

Beverly on the other hand, is either raw or has low BB IQ. I say this because he has foul issues and a lot of his fouls are stupid touch fouls. Beverly averages 6.0 PFs per 36 mins. Think about that for a second. I would prefer to think it's just inexperience in the NBA. There are probably things he could get away with in Europe that he's doing here, but he needs to learn that he can't do them anymore.

 

I would take none of these people over Lin. The OP doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Lin is the 15th best PG in the league. And he's 24 years old. The dude has more potential than 90% of the PG's in the league. We all saw the Spur game, and Linsanity.

Right now I see only 8 PG's who are better than a young learning Lin. If Lin keeps learning, I see him as a TOP 8 in the league in his Prime. If given the Keys to the team, I see him Top 5.

 

It doesn't matter if you take them over Lin or not, they all probably have more trade value than him

 

No they don't. You know Calderon is making 10m per year right?

 

Lin would be too much of a gamble for most teams to take the risk. He doesn't shoot well and is turnover prone.

 

Pretty accurate

but lol @ Felton part, prepare for the ****storm Knicks fan, no one is better than Lin in this part of town

 

that was at ny knicks.

 

You're ignorence is funny.

Lin fans in generall, you can use all the numbers you want. In the end numbers can only show you so much. If you actually watch Jeremy Lin play, it obvious he's not a capable player. There is a reason 30 teams passed on him twice.