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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Bobcats 1/21/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. torocan

    torocan Member

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    This was posted in the fire McHale thread...

    If this is true, it would explain more than a few things that seem odd on the floor.

    Is it possible that McHale has lost the locker room?
     
  2. smoove shoez

    smoove shoez Member

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    what channel
     
  3. coach41

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    It was interesting to see some comments here about McHale as a coach. As a Warriors fan, we have Mark Jackson, who had ZERO coaching experience prior to taking over. Last season was a bit brutal. This season, the Warriors are doing much better. That being said, I was curious about how Jackson handled his coaching duties. The Warriors have some good assistants and I sense Jackson defers to them a lot.

    A recent article in the paper indicated that Jackson is very much a players coach and sets the tone for the team at games / practices. But yet there was nothing said about him working on X's and O's. One thing Jackson seems to be involved in is the subs. Jackson definitely has his preferred pattern last year and early this year. Today, I saw a lot of "match up" substitutions: Offense for Defense, etc, etc. Jackson also had faith in his team. The Warriors were up late third quarter against the Clippers. Jackson went to his bench with about 2 minutes left in the third. The Warriors went from up 5 to down 7 (80-73). Yet Jackson never changed expressions or called timeout. He just let the players play through things. Thankfully, the Warriors won (and took the season series against the Clippers 3-1).

    If you look at the 49ers here, just because you were a good player (Singletary) or had a dad that was a good coach (Nolan), it doesn't guarantee you get success. The best head coaches seem to have some "X factor".

    I'm not entirely sold on Jackson, but the players seem to like him. It seems there is a split consensus on McHale from reading here and other boards. Thought?
     
  4. MambaJoe

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    On CSN
     
  5. atwood

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    Mark Jackson did an amazing job at Golden State Warriors! He could be the coach of the year!

     
  6. smoove shoez

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    I don't have that channel. I'll wait for the highlights.
     
  7. Mr. Dominant

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    THANK YOU!

    Mr. D
     
  8. glacier921

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    I have a strong feeling by looking at the bench that Mchale might have lost the locker room. Lin does not look like he wants to talk to him at all. One time, I even saw Mchale pat lin on the shoulders, almost exaggerating it a bit, but lin had little reaction.

    Parsons wasn't too happy either. Lin and Parsons was actually doing well in this 7 game losing streak with respect to fg % and efficiency, except of course against Minny where everyone was doing bad. Instead, they kept forcing the ball on Harden which couldn't make more than 5 shots in the last 4 games.

    How could you not lose the locker room with this 7 game losing streak? Contrary to popular belief on clutchfans, I think that this rockets is a VERY talented team. When I watched the clippers game, I thought we had the team to beat the Clippers but the half court set just didn't work. For those who think that I am crazy that we had the team to beat the clippers, look at the box score. It was pretty even throughout the board as far as field goal attempts ,rebounds, FT attempts etc. We lost it on the free throws. But the rockets team that showed up against the clipper that night was not the rockets that was winning on that 10 games in 12 stretch.

    The Dallas game was equally painful to watch. When watching, you KNOW our teams was better, but the play calling was odd. It was frustrating.

    Anyways, would feel bad for mchale even though he's lousy for our team. Seems like a nice person plus the recent tragedy. But he has to go if he's going to force whatever issue he keeps forcing in the locker room.
     
  9. MambaJoe

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    Sorry, I hope they make a deal soon because my Grandma have been waiting to watch the Rockets game. I'm just lucky to have Comcast... I had Comcast for a few years now... They sucks but I get CSN...
     
  10. coach41

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    I forget if I posted this here before but I don't really think Lin can play like a traditional PG like a John Stockton (at least not yet). You have to remember that Jeremy Lin played the wing spots at Harvard so a lot of initial instincts is to score. Jeremy Lin can pass though so the scoring opens up everyone else to get their shots. If you take away Lin's aggressive to score, he just becomes a dribble / dish / spot up shooter that you guys have been seeing.

    Stockton had the advantage of a Pick and Roll with Malone. Lin does not and Lin needs to prove he can hit his mid-range jumpers as well.

    For whatever reason, coaches seem to NOT trust Lin to play his game and instead Lin gets caught in no-man's land.


     
  11. Kwame

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    I didn't get to watch the game today, but did Jeremy Lin really get absolutely owned by Kemba Walker?
     
  12. torocan

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    No. He was being aggressively picked and there was no Help Defense to hedge the pick until mid way through the 3rd quarter.

    Even when Lin was out, Kemba Walker put up 13 points in about 10 minutes (he also happened to be on fire).

    Poor PnR team defense for the majority of the game.
     
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    Beverley played better today, no doubt; but, to say he should start instead of Lin is ridiculous - just because Lin had a bad game . Beverley got 10 pts. and 2 Ast, big deal - Like Lin never got anything better than those stats before. In the past when Lin got stats like that he had pure hate. I guess lets forget about Beverley's 0-4, 2 Ast, 3 TO and 5 PF just the last game, lol.

    A comment like yours and some others are pure jokes; from a troll I would understand, but from someone who has been on here as long as you is unacceptable.
     
  14. SuperStar

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    Harbaugh went with Kaepernick only after 1 game even though Smith was having a great season.
     
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    I know but whatever!!! Per Superstar, Beverly is going to overtake Lin's job. Shocking!! So many awesome fortune tellers here.
     
  16. coach41

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    Lots of Bay Area references here! :)

    The 49ers situation is a little different (as everyone well knows). Alex Smith went from a "dud" to a serviceable NFL starter. Was that enough to get the 49ers to the Super Bowl? If you just look at LAST season, the answer was no since the 49ers lost in the NFC Championship game.

    Coach Harbaugh made a decision to roll the dice with Kaepernick and it looks like it has worked out.

    Jeremy Lin vs Beverly is not exactly fair. Both are young and presumably have room to grow. Just a question of where they will end up. I would say that the Jeremy Lin vs Raymond Felton was more fair. Felton is solid but probably at his peak, while Lin could be much better. :D



     
  17. Steal&Deal

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    The personal tragedy McHale went thru was terrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. He was a great player also but not all great players are even good coaches. McHale unfortunately is a poor coach who has been blessed with some very good players. I believe that he has gotten the minimum out of them however. Some people have the natural talent at teaching some at coaching. It would be hard I'm sure to let McHale go as coach but I think it has to be done for the good of the team.
     
  18. Bball_4life

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    But we have seen even TD done what Beverley done today, you didn't see TD taking Lin's job did you? Beverley was more aggressive today and had a decent game, but nothing spectacular, not even great. It was Harden who won the game for us today not Beverley.
     
  19. glacier921

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    It befuddles me that our losing streak somehow has to do w/ Lin not being "aggressive." Well, how could you be "aggressive" when the coach asks you to pass to Harden every play? Why would you want to be "aggresive" when you're not going to get the call when getting hacked?

    Our losing streak was because Mchale changed the offensive scheme back to the beginning of the season. When Lin sat out in the 4th quarter, it wasn't like the Rockets destroyed the Bobcats! This recent losing streak was all on Mchale. A few posts earlier said Mchale was losing the locker room. Wouldn't be surprised.
     
  20. i meow a lot

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    proof please? I didn't watch the gam etonight but the numbers Lin are putting up are more than disappointing. Is it the offense? Is it he system, is it him just not playing well? to be fair, Harden is not shooting well either (looking at his fg)
     

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