ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Bobcats 1/21/2013

did we? I actually saw a lot of run&gun tonight...perhaps we simply didn't have enough defensive stops for running....

 

It's not Lin, it's the system.

Lin's problem is because he is too passive. He needs to attack more and get some beating.

 

In the 3rd quarter we did run and gun and it closed the gap from our deficit. The 4th when Lin was benched, it went back to the half court set. I'm thinking Mchale is really uncomfortable with the run and gun offense, and we barely beat the Bobcats. With the momentum of the run and gun offense, it looked like we could blow out the bobcats, but they stopped again.

 

interesting comments by Anthoney Carter about McHale...

I still don't get why Rockets picked him as the head coach...

 

Lin situation def reminds me of Pau situation in Lakers right now.

 

Swear I'm done quoting you, but totally this. I guess the only way you could compare the two is that they are both pretty high paces offenses. The suns just had a ton of weapons though, and they all fit together perfectly. And Nash.

 

The answer, of course, is simple. Makes for great reading in the Lin threads.

 

You are right.

Logic of Lofs. It's not Lins fault. Lin is the greatest. It's everyone else's fault he can't do good.
-hardens fault
-coaches fault
-Asik fault
-racism fault

But not Lins fault. Smh!


Btw I am trolling bout Beverly and d league.

 

Too bad his system has never won a championship. The guy simply doesn't know how to play defense. He is a failure as a Head Coach.

 

I see a lot of your comments complaining about not 'run and gun', I will give you my take.

In order to run and gun, we first need to get rebounds. We were far out-rebounding the opposing teams during our winning streak. Now the other teams have figured us out and they are competing hard for rebounds when playing against us. We don't have that much advantage like we used to. No rebounds, no run. Plus, when we do get rebounds, the other teams also run back fast to their positions. (If you watch games, a few times Lin did get rebounds, but out players are far behind the opposing team players that Lin has no one to pass to so he has to stop and wait for our other players) Therefore we have been forced to play half court battles. When in half court, the most reliable player is Harden. That's why he gets the ball and often does a lot of ISOs.

Fast breaks are our bread and butter. Players and coaches all want to do it. It's just they are unable to do as much as they like. As much as I have reservations about our coaching, I don't believe the coach stuff has changed that philosophy.

 

I agree.

 

the plain and simple truth i've come to realize is this (and i LOVE jeremy lin as much as any LOF)--if you want harden as your primary handler in the offensive scheme mchale wants to run, then you need the other guard to be a spot up shooter, PERIOD. you need harden to be confident in throwing the ball to you for the open three. JL is not that guy. that's not his game and never has been his game and never will be. he built his rep on kicking it out to steve novak, not BEING steve novak. patrick beverley is serviceable. he's not great by any stretch of the imagination, but one thing he IS is a better spot up 3 point shooter than JL. JL and harden aren't going to work. unless the rockets make a coaching change, a trade is best for the rockets and him.

IF NOT, then the best thing to do is to:

1) start beverley with harden and have JL be the sixth man and split up the minutes fairly evenly between beverley and lin.
2) harden and JL should never both be on the bench at the same time except garbage time.
3) JL should never play shooting guard when he's on the floor and harden is on the bench.
4) JL's standing orders when he comes off the bench is to green light to the basket. attack attack attack.

 

Most of the screens Kemba got that led to his jump shots made were moving screens not called in the first three quarters. He used these moving screens extremely well to get rid of both Lin and Beverly.

I noticed that Bobcats' bigs started to have their hands down in front when setting picks in the 4th quarter. I wonder if they had got a warning or something so they stopped their moving screens, which resulted in Kemba scoring less and us catching up and pulling away.

Let me know if you guys have noticed this change.

 

All this back and forth talk is nonsense. We won tonight because Harden was getting the calls and were able to make them count at the charity line. Winning that depends on the ref to give you the call will always be inconsistent. Lin gets hacked at lot near the basket but rarely gets the call unless he is bleeding. He should go into his shooting mode and just make 15 ft jumpers if he is open instead of trying to pass the ball around. Defenders will have to guard him more which will give the bigs more room to operate and get a rebound or tip in the ball.

 

The problem with D'Antoni is he has historically focused on one end without putting the time in on the other end. That doesn't mean his system is a failure, just that his disinterest in the other half of the game (defense) detracts from his ability to succeed.

Despite that, he still ALMOST got to the Championship one season. And had the Suns not had multiple players suspended during the play offs, I think a Championship appearance would have been a real possibility.

Woodson managed to improve the Knicks defense substantially even while D'Antoni was HC... they were top 5 in defensive efficiency when Lin started in NY until D'Antoni left the Knicks. D'Antoni really needs a top tier defensive coordinator, or he needs to be the offensive coordinator with a strong defensive coach for his system to win a Championship.

His offensive X's and O's are still among the best in the league. You see that in how often his plays are poached by other teams. The Knicks still use a ton of D'Antoni's offensive sets. The difference is that Woodson ALSO emphasizes Defense.

One thing I've noticed is that Woodson's time with D'Antoni has made Woodson a substantially better offensive coach than during his time in Atlanta. Unfortunately, the jury is still out as to whether D'Antoni learned a similar lesson on the Defensive end.

That doesn't mean that the Offensive system is bad. Just that you need more than one side of the court to win a Championship.

 

Damn, wish we would've lost, seems we got lucky!

 

Talking about spot up shooter, TD is still better than the Beverley.

 

Basically, 5 on 5 pickup games have more organized offenses than our beloved nba team.

 

I'm glad we won (I think), but the way we won left a bitter taste in my mouth. Our offense hasn't really changed and we rely on Harden getting to the FT line to win, but there will begames when he doesn't get those calls, like in the Mavs game for instance. We are going to get crushed playing Denver the way we are playing right now.

 

Harden played 41 minutes again today. So exactly how many minutes can we expect for him to stagger with Lin? 7 minutes for Lin to play without Harden on court?