ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Bobcats 1/21/2013

Beverley helped us a bunch. He was hustling for rebounds all day and got us a lot of second chances. He deserves more playing time.

 

Maybe a win will get the confidence up. It is a lot tougher to play good basketball if you are losing every time. We finally started playing decent defense and running on the break. I think we took a step in the right direction.

 

Sorry, my bad. Hope this wouldn't get me fired.:grin:

 

That's true, but not to give out a really far-out example, but didn't Kobe's handle get better year after year? I feel like he definitely worked on it and seriously improved. I also do agree that it comes at a young age, and if you already have it, it's easier to improve on that vs not having any in the first place.

But Lin does have handles, so couldn't he improve?

Mr. D

 

Kemba had a +4 & he was the best player out there on the court. yes better than harden tonight

If you don't see how +/- is so flawed don't even know what to say to you

 

As much as Harden gets blocked or turns the ball or gets ignored by the refs over and over again on his drives, he needs to keep doing it. Those win games for the Rockets.

 

Knee jerk...Walker was on fire the first half. Normal stats dictates he wasn't going to be shooting 100% so he slowed down and Beverley came in with fresh legs. No doubt Beverley is a good defender though.

 

I have preached that the Rockets biggest short coming is team defense.. so you are preaching to the choir. Having said that, Walker was able to get his shot off at ease against Lin, and Beverly was allowing open 3's.

The Rockets won, and Harden was clutch... but not happy with what is going on with Lin.

 

His defense isn't the problem, and they aren't going to change the offense for him. He can't play the spot up shooter, dude can't shoot at this point in his career.

Just like any other team with a ball dominant wing player ( outside of okc ), like the Lakers, heat, etc.., the point guard is stuck as the person that initiates the offense and then camps behind the line. Look at Lin and Beverly's lines. Pretty similar, except Beverly can knock down the three ( 5 of his 6 shots were threes ) . Neither got many assists ( 3 for Lin, 2 for Beverly ) and both had 2 turnovers.

It shouldn't be a shock unless you expected Lin to put up 25 and 8. He had the ball in his hands in new York, and a few times here. Most recently, the fourth quarter of the Dallas game where the offense changed COMPLETELY in the final quarter. Beverly is better suited to that style of play, just like your Steve blames, Derick fishers, Mario Chalmers etc.. Lin probably should be on the court when harden isn't, but that isn't the case ( had no time on the court today without harden ).

 

When Lin plays about 30ish decent-to-superb NBA games, it's a small sample size that's not indicative of his true potential.

Patrick Beverley has a few non-sucky NBA games and he's already the Rockets savior, ready to take this championship-level team (that's only being held back Lin to the next) level.

LOL

 

I agree with larry cook. Lin would be great coming off of the bench. He could lead the second unit and it might do wonders for his confidence. I could see him playing the pick and roll effectively with the 2nd unit. That's actually an exciting idea when you think of it. It seems he just doesn't mesh well with the starters or maybe it's just him. I think the best thing for the team would be for Lin to either come off of the bench or play significant minutes with the second unit. I just see him and Morris being a good match for some reason.

 

true.. but something about the system needs fixing. someone said this earlier, but we're not very good with the half court sets. not sure if beverley provides the answer for that - neither does using harden as the pg and sg.

 

Any people using +/- to judge a player's performance is just dumb. Oftentimes the best player of the game has worse +/- numbers than back up role players simply he stayed on the court longer. During our winning streak when Harden was on fire, Douglas's +/- is often better than Harden

 

People believe what they want to beverley.

 

And thats what seperates great point guards to average PGs.

Every single great PGs have elite handles, thats why I dont understand some posters here say Lin's gonna be a great PG, nope, he will never be a great PG on any team. He's a combo guard with good court vision, but his court vision has been greatly under-utilised because he's an average dribbler. Remember he's tendency of jumping in mid-air and pass? Yep, thats because he's not confident enough to pass in motion.

Put him in PnR situation might maximise his production, but how that prodiction translates to team winning is another story.

I like Lin, he's a great story, a good young fella who's earned his spot in the league, but this is who he is --- talented but fundementally flawed in some major areas.

 

It is sad. parsons & Mook had a solid game tonight & few people giving them love. if it wasn't for the two of them really stepping it up we wouldn't have even had a chance at the game. Those two were the players of the game.

 

+/- is a useless stat. It's not better than random guessing.

You can't accept a stat when it works the way you want and later on not accept it when it doesn't.

Lin played like crap today. Did he play better than Ramon Sessions who was at -16 yet scored 19 pts?

Patterick Patterson: 0 pts, 4 rebs, +3
Harden: 29 pts, -1

Patterson had the better game then Harden right? Not if you watched the game.

Hating for the sake of hating makes you a loser in life.

 

Lin just isn't playing aggressive. If he is someone who excels at getting to the basket and finishing, he should go up for the finish more often. He shot 5 times today. He always gets to the rim but chooses to dribble underneath it and pass it out for a contested jumper instead of going up strong. At least Beverley plays with confidence....

 

We won today, and all you want to do is crap all over the Rockets. Constructive criticism would be one thing, but you are just throwing out insults.

You are no Rockets fan. Go back to where ever you came from.

 

Every time someone struggles, people want to trade or bench him. Seriously, it's like we expect all our players to be Jordan or Lebron. Stop the insanity.