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No African-American NFL head coaches hired in 2013

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Air Langhi, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. Caltex2

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    Yeah, as a black man, I get sick of it too. If people complain about it too much, no one will ever take serious cases of racism with any legitimacy (which has already happened).

    There's certainly racism and a system of nepotism, both in sports as well as in life in general (Cause mostly by years of discrimination) but it does get old to hear after a while, even if true.
     
  2. Caltex2

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    Black people overuse it, which cheapens it's value but doooon't be naive and think it never has merit. There still is racism (and yes, it goes both ways) and I think 50 years of minorities being equal citizens, especially the treatment of blacks before desegregation is hardly enough time to get on equal footing on average. Yeah bygones should be bygones and we should move on but you still have to be black to understand.
     
  3. moestavern19

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    Hue Jackson is an offensive play caller I believe. Pretty good one too.

    Went a bit off the reservation as a HC, but still a legit offensive mind.
     
  4. Hustle Town

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    The race card is never a good thing. People "play" the race card to gain an advantage to gain an advantage over an ethnic group. In other words, it is simply exploitation and makes things worse, not better.
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    One assumption that's been tossed around here is that being a good football player means that you'll be a good coach, also. I'm not sure that's always the case. The skill sets needed are quite different. To be a great player, you need to have the physical skills needed to do the job. To be a great coach, you've got to have smarts and the ability to motivate. Different skill sets.

    Blacks make up about 12% of the US, and about 7% of NFL head coaches. Too small of a data subset, but it's not totally wackily out of line.
     
  6. Raven

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    And why are Oompa-Loompas being overlooked? Why aren't they getting their chance to be NFL head coaches? Such a hard working industrious people being discriminated against simply because they're short and have green hair.
     
  7. MystikArkitect

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    Fairly certain if Sumlin made himself available...he'd get some run.
     
  8. ubigred

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    Defense win championships.
     
  9. david_rocket

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    I dont get it, why it matters what is the race of the coaches? the GMs hire the coaches because of their skills.

    I think in 2014, Caldwell and Lovie will get a chance to be a head coach somewhere.
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    very novel thinking, my friend!
     
  11. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    most blacks dont really care about head coaching jobs, thats just the media speaking up for us YET again, without knowing the situation

    SAS, and Jemelle Hill are paid by ESPN to race-bait
     
  12. Lil Pun

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    If you look at some of my previous posts on the subject you would see I agree. I've said the same things, that racism still occurs but when you pull the race card is lessens the impact of those instance of true racism. I know there is still racism and when it is true racism and not assumed, I don't believe that is pulling the race card.

    I believe pulling the race card signifies that you think the sole reason something happened was because of your race, regardless what that race is, and the truth is you didn't measure up or that you don't know the truth. I didn't get the ob because I'm black. I got pulled over because I am black. Yes, it happens but maybe there was somebody deemed more qualified, maybe you were speeding just a little bit. I don't think people should just automatically assume something happened to them because of their race.

    I understand, I'm biracial but I consider myself black and most of my friends are black. I get it from what I've been through and what I see my friends go through. It still happens but everything that happens (good or bad) doesn't need to be attributed to race all the time.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    See . . . .this is how propaganda works
    Now . .. you feel uncomfortable calling racism . . .racism
    and so you don't . . .
    and now .. . since no one is saying it is what it is
    we can all ACT LIKE it is not happening

    Propaganda Manipulation program complete
    desired solution almost acheived
    ridding the world of racism but removing all allusions and references to it . .without actually ridding the world of racism . .

    GOOD JOB! GOOD EFFORT!

    Rocket River
     
  14. Rocket River

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    . . . and most blacks LOVED the cotton fields. . . . - SkyrimOwnsAll

    Rocket River
     
  15. Lil Pun

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    I'm not saying to not call out racism when it happens and I am not calling it uncomfortable calling it what it is. If you know for sure that there is a racist motive behind something call it out and expose those who are taking part in that but do not assume and if you choose to do so have some evidence to back up your assumptions.

    In my opinion, somebody assuming that they were not hired or whatever because of their race with no evidence is no better than somebody assuming that a person is of no good intention because of their race with no evidence.
     
  16. Ender120

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    This may come off as ignorant, so I apologize in advance.

    Also, I have a ton of love for black people.

    But can someone explain to me why we NEED black coaches in the NFL?

    I'm absolutely in favor of affirmative action for things that matter, like college admission, or real people jobs that real people use to support their families.

    But the NFL is an entertainment industry.

    These dudes get paid millions to tell other dudes what to do.

    Where does race factor in?

    Name me one black boy watching the game Sunday and thinking, "One day I want to coach the Texans."

    You can't, because that doesn't happen.

    Little kids want to be Andre Johnson, or Arian Foster, or they want to kick Schaub's goofy, unathletic ass to the curb and be the first black Texans quarterback.

    They don't want to be Gary Kubiak.

    I don't blame them.

    If you can somehow make the head coach position seem glamorous, maybe more people would want the position. Watch any team any time, and then look at their coach.

    Fat, balding, and ugly.

    What kid dreams of that?

    I never hear complaints about the lack of white receivers, or asian centers, or eskimo pitchers, so what person complains about the lack of black coaches?

    Race can be a non-issue until you make it one.

    Don't get me wrong, I get the good ol' boys argument, and it is a good one.

    Old rich white dudes hiring their old white buddies, but no matter how much or how loudly you complain, you're not going to change anything.

    White people had the nerve to write about the freedom of every man, then turn around and beat their slaves.

    What were you expecting?
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Dream change over time
    When your knee is taken out at age 16
    When your college career does not go as planned

    There is no NEED . . beyond the NEED for equality of opportunity.

    Why do we NEED to have a job position that is pretty much exclusively white?

    Rocket River
     
  18. Ender120

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    I get that argument too, man.

    The dude that I lived next to as a kid, grew up with, rode the bus to school with every day, watched him get his ass beat by a dude that lived down the street because he jawed off too much one day and got set straight, he had a football scholarship.

    He blew out his knee and had to come home.

    In the seven years I was around him, he never once mentioned being a coach.

    He played the game while he could, then he stopped.

    I get the equality argument man, and I wish our society viewed things differently, but the only thing I can think is that it's up to us to stop focusing on race if we really want it to stop being an issue.

    Love everybody, treat everybody the same, and stop giving a **** about something as arbitrary as skin color.

    Especially if you're examining an issue as unimportant as NFL coaching positions.

    I'm more worried about why there aren't more black Presidents, or Senators, or Supreme Court justices, or even just news anchors.

    Those things matter infinitely more to me than football.
     
  19. Rocket River

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    Because Ignoring the issue worked so well with
    Slavery, Civil Rights, Woman's rights, etc etc etc

    Power Concedes NOTHING without DEMAND!

    Rocket River
     
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  20. Ender120

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    I'm not saying ignore, I'm saying overcome.

    Please don't compare actual important issues with something as meaningless as who tells pro football players where to run on the field.
     

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