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2012-2013 Astros Offseason: Trade & FA Speculation

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by juicystream, Oct 30, 2012.

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  1. tellitlikeitis

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>To make room on the 40-man roster for the recently acquired RHP John Ely, the Astros have designated OF Che-Hsuan Lin for assignment.</p>&mdash; Houston Astros (@astros) <a href="https://twitter.com/astros/status/281518513653432320" data-datetime="2012-12-19T21:56:58+00:00">December 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  2. moonsh0t

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    John Ely is a good candidate for a Lucas Harrel-esqe breakout year.
     
    #162 moonsh0t, Dec 19, 2012
  3. sealclubber1016

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    He got called up in 2010 before ever having success in AAA.

    Last season in AAA his H/9, K/9, and BB/9 were all the best of his minor league career.

    He's all about pitchability, so maybe he has put it together.
     
    #163 sealclubber1016, Dec 19, 2012
  4. HstnSprtsFan101

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    A guy I'd really like to get is Cody Ross

    Altuve
    Lowrie
    Ross
    Pena

    Would be somewhat respectable
     
    #164 HstnSprtsFan101, Dec 19, 2012
  5. No Worries

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Astros GM Jeff Luhnow confirms for FOX 26 Sports that he has been in contact with Lance Berkman yesterday &amp; today &amp; talks are continuing.</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/287308252742553600" data-datetime="2013-01-04T21:23:20+00:00">January 4, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    (Earlier reports today that Nolan was trying to talk Lance into coming to the Rangers.)
     
    #166 J.R., Jan 4, 2013
  7. Rocketman95

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    Do it.
     
    #167 Rocketman95, Jan 4, 2013
  8. juicystream

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    Norris: $3M
    Lowrie: $2M
    Wright: Unknown

    Have signed deals to avoid arbitration. I think that basically finalizes our salary for 2013 unless the team makes a change to the 40 man roster. I can't imagine Wright getting more than $1M in arbitration.

    Edit: This gives known salaries to any trade ideas. I don't know if it makes it less likely for a deal or not. I know a lot of people expect Lowrie/Norris gone soon.
     
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  9. juicystream

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    I wanted to leave you rep, but couldn't. I always thought Texas was a wild card in all this, and that it would take $10M for a non-Astros team, but I didn't think think it would happen.

    You and your source (thankfully) more knowledgeable than me with regards to the stupidity of GMs.
     
    #169 juicystream, Jan 20, 2013
  10. cardpire

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    why is it stupid? the contract assumes he's healthy. when healthy, he is a huge asset.
     
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  11. juicystream

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    Because it ASSumes.

    Fair value if he stays healthy. Terrible value if he struggles to stay healthy like 2 of the last 3 seasons.
     
    #171 juicystream, Jan 20, 2013
  12. MadMax

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    parties to contracts don't assume anything, if smart...if smart they judge all risk and that affects other things...like price.

    if you believe a guy to be injury prone, you build that in to the price of the deal. unless of course you're a #DrunkenSailor
     
    #172 MadMax, Jan 20, 2013
  13. juicystream

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    That is why there are incentives. They could have put incentives in it for PAs and the deal would have been good. They panicked after losing Hamilton.
     
    #173 juicystream, Jan 20, 2013
  14. MadMax

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    they replaced Michael Young and Josh Hamilton with Lance Berkman
     
    #174 MadMax, Jan 20, 2013
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    who says he would have agreed to an incentive-laden contract with the rangers?
     
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    As bad as Young was last season, that actually may be a break-even proposition for the club if Berkman stays healthy.
     
    #176 Hammer755, Jan 20, 2013
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    They also will have flexibility to make a move at a later date.
     
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    I have a hard time seeing Lance being breakeven relative to losing both Young AND Hamilton.
     
    #178 MadMax, Jan 21, 2013
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    I don't think he would have. That is why you just pass on a deal.
     
    #179 juicystream, Jan 21, 2013
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    Mike Napoli is gone too.
     
    #180 juicystream, Jan 21, 2013
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