Umm, the first link is for what? Did you even read it? The guy never even got the gun. Grabbing a holstered gun ≠ taking a holstered gun. Obviously you've never worn a holster, they are tough to remove unless your arm movement is in line with the person wearing it. And the second is an inmate who took a gun from a POLICE OFFICER. Most every day citizens aren't going to come in to contact with a damn prison inmate. Nice stretches though.
He did get the gun, which is why they say the unarmed man who helped RETURNED it to the victim. I pointed out that the second incident happened to a police officer. The fact that it can be done to a trained law enforcement official doesn't speak well for the average joe.
Every single time I shoot I wear a holster. I actually wear a double holster every time I shoot. Other times when I'm just practicing with a gun unloaded I wear a single holster. I wear holsters surprisingly often.
Reread the source article, not the blog. "Attempted to wrestle it from the student" when "Another person walking by the area came to the student’s aid and was able to secure the handgun, EMU said in the statement."
Right. So the third person is the one that got it back and returned it to the gun owner. Is your position that the a robber tried to grab it from the holster, but couldn't, then a third person came over and he was the one that took it from the holster to return it to the owner? I don't find that likely. But either way somebody took the gun from the owner in order to return it to him.
No... attempted does not mean taken, and secured does not mean it had to be taken from him to help secure it. If the criminal would have gotten the gun, he would either have run away with it, or shot them. But keep trying to prove your point.
But returning it to the owner does mean it was removed from the holster. I don't have to try and prove my point. All I have to do is understand the meaning of the word "return".
Why? There are very few people who openly carry their firearms. The fact is that in only a brief search I found what someone claimed didn't exist. Why would I need to keep searching for more examples?
You didn't find anything conclusive, you can say you did... but you clearly didn't. Have you been to Arizona? People openly carry there all the time.
Yeah, I've been to Arizona and outside of Tombstone OK Corral reenactments I didn't really see a lot of people openly carrying their guns. In several stops in Benson, Phoenix, Tombstone, Tuscon, Flagstaff, and a few others, I didn't see any private citizens openly carrying their guns around.
The bottom line is that it's been legal in Arizona for quite some time now and it hasn't caused crime to increase nor has it caused any issues so it's not a big deal. Texas should allow it.
I've been to Tempe and Phoenix for about week long trips within the past 16 months. I've seen several open carry in each. I've also seen "partially concealed" all over the place, meaning they were wearing a long shirt or jacket without trying to hard to conceal it. They are easy to spot if you know what you're looking for. The problem with the CHL law in Texas is it has "imprinting" and other aspects of the concealed law that make it a pain in the ass to carry daily. Sometimes I do NOT carry for fear of imprinting or not properly concealing, especially in the summer months. When I carry I am also CONSTANTLY focusing on not showing, so much so that it is probably kind of obvious that I am strapped. I personally wouldn't open carry, but I also wouldn't go out of my way to wear a jacket on a 100 degree day either. If you see a guy casually dressed wearing a long vest or jacket from May to October, he's probably carrying.
Okay. You've had a different experience than I have. Neither of our experiences are really conclusive of anything. I might actually carry if there was an open carry law, but probably not. I wouldn't carry any ammo, but I just think it would be hilarious to walk around like a cowboy.
Well obviously WOMEN shouldn't be allowed to have guns. That is just asking for trouble. They serve no useful purpose in a kitchen anyway.
