Rockets Interested In a Trade for Marcin Gortat + Paul Millsap Their Top Target?

Harden is playing 11.7 more minutes per game than he did in 2011. Millsaps minutes per game are only down by 3.8 from 2 seasons ago. His per 36 minuite #'s are pretty much the same 18.2 pts to 17.6 pts this season. Rebounds per 36 are up from 8.0 to 9.1, but last season it was 9.7. Basically he hasn't improved much since 2010-2011. His fg% is down from .531 to .476 this year. I wrote about the drop in his midrange fg% from 47% to 32% in another thread. His fg% in the paint(excluding shots @ the rim) dropped from 42% to 36%.

He's 27 almost 28 and he's already reached his ceiling. He's not an all star now and probably never will be one so why do we want to risk giving up young talent for him.

 

Because we have young talent that will never be as good as Millsap is right now.(Looking at you PPat/Morris)

 

I think it's all about what you're giving up vs what you're getting. With Milsap you're getting a half a season rental, with a chance to pay market value to lock him up long-term. In other words, you're not getting much.

We don't want to do what Jersey did, and effectively trade Lillard for an aging Wallace at market value.

I trust Morey gets it. If we do manage to aquire Milsap in a trade, we won't have given up anything we can't live without. Morey will get him on the cheap or not at all.

 

I like Gortat. From what I understand, he's a great finisher on the pick and roll, which would be a good fit. Plus, I think he'd add a lot to defense and rebounding.

I say no to Millsap. I'd rather go after Jefferson. Yes, we probably can't pair Harden up with a Top 5 player. BUT....with Jefferson, we'd be pairing up Harden with somebody who is Top 5 in something. Top 5 in post scoring. Millsap is Top 15 in a lot of categories, but Top 15 can be stopped. Top 5 means odds are almost always in your favor. Plus, he's a great rebounder and a pretty good shot blocker. He might slow us down when he's in there, but I don't know if I believe in this pace thing long-term and in the playoffs.

 

Gentry left the team and now the Suns are apparently trying to go younger. Guess that means Gortat will likely be available.

 

say no to Gortat.
Omer and Greg are a better duo.
I thought we were going young and didn't this bi**** jilt us during the last prom. i remember it like it was yesterday, Morey and Ipad lol

 

Serious Question: When we as Rockets fans start loving Jazz players? I remember when Carlos Boozer was a free agent and everybody was saying we do not want him cause he played for the Jazz...with that being said why the love for Millsap who is a hated Jazz.

(I'm guilty as well cause I wanted Al Jefferson but the only way we could have gotten him was with Martin contract)

PFs available at Deadline

Millsap ( can work out for us short term and long term)
Varejao (out 8 weeks )
Smith (can work out for us short term and long term)
Bargnani (he can work but are you willing)
Gasol (do not really have salary to match0
Hickson (he can veto any trade)
Jefferson (not happening)
Stoudemire (contract is way too much)
Davis (cheap 6 million a year for next two years maybe best bet for Rockets)
Anderson (ok player not a real force on the boards and little defense)

Out of these players which player would fit best on this team to help us make a push to get in the playoffs

Glen Davis for Aldrich, Motiejunas, Patterson will work and will be IMO the best move for right now as for rebounding and defense

Millsap and Watson for Douglas, Jones and Morris

Lin, Harden, Parsons, Millsap & Asik ---1st unit

Beverley, Smith, Davis & Delfino ---Bench

Watson & Anderson ----Suits


with adding Davis salary and having Millsap rights our salary going into next season will be ($35,071,145) and will give us $22,928,855 to have in free agency if we do not pickup Delfino (i did not figure in) option...with getting Davis in a trade we can bolster our bench so Asik will not be burned out...What do you guys think of bringing in Glen Davis to help start at PF and then move to the bench next season when we get a max PF next year???

 

No to Millsap.
Only one i would go for is Varejao.
I might understand going for Amare if morey thinks he is worth his contract

 

I think this is correct.

In my view, Houston is effectively communicating to Utah that they (Utah) can accept 25 cents on the dollar for Paul Millsap now (e.g., a Patrick Patterson-Donatas Motiejunas package) or they can receive absolutely nothing at all for Millsap this summer if/when Houston (or some other team) signs Millsap outright.

Further, Houston is applying additional pressure on Utah by shopping around for a Millsap alternative (e.g., Marcin Gortat). If Houston finds a team (such as Phoenix) that is willing to agree to what Houston is peddling in exchange for a good veteran big, then Houston has created leverage for itself in its trade negotations with Utah.

Keep in mind that it is not inconceivable that Houston will wind up with both dudes. Houston can trade for Gortat prior to the February trade deadline and sign Millsap this summer. Gortat-Millsap-Asik is an outstanding three-man frontcourt (PF & C; I don't consider a SF a "frontcourt player" in today's NBA), and Houston can win 60 ballgames next season if you were to add Gortat and Millsap to the current core without giving up anything essential (and neither Patterson nor Motiejunas are essential). Although it would be awfully helpful for Jeremy Lin to continue to develop, obviously.

 

we prob don't want pay the world for Milsap, so if we want him at a discount price, it only happens at the trade deadline. be patient.

 

I could very well be wrong on this, but I keep seeing people say trade Lin and Asik in various posts. I was had the understanding they could not be traded until this summer? Like I said I could be wrong, but this is what i THOUGHT was the situation.

 

I had the understanding*

 

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Millsap won't take us over the hump. He is a good player, but he is a 6'8 pf.
If we can let T.Jones develop, Jones has a shot to be better than Millsap.
At best, Millsap is a lil above average but not a star

 

Worst.....source.....ever.....

 

Come on Commodore! You should know better than to post this crap.

 

What about that David West? I know he's older. But man....he seems to be everything the Rockets need. Versatile on offense, and he seems to play good defense. Disregarding age, who would you rather have - West or Gortat? I'm not that big on Millsap.

 

I'll just say, again, that Paul Millsap grades out very highly based on certain "advanced" stats that folks in the Rockets organization pay attention to. Couple that with Morey's apparent affinity with undersized but skilled PFs, and I think he's a guy the Rockets really covet. Does he make sense given our long term goals? Not sure. But if we can obtain him without inhibiting our ability to acquire a big-time player in the next couple years, I think we'll try to do it.

 

The Jazz haven't been as good in recent years and the Rockets haven't met most of the current players in the playoffs. That makes it harder to hate those players and the vision of seeing them on the Rockets easier to imagine. The hate normally comes from a team/player beating your team or the style of play (dirtyness) when they play against you (which is more visible the more often you play them in crucial situations).

 

I'd love to know what these advanced stats are.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013_advanced.html

Milsap is 130th in the league in TS%, 71st in PP36, 88th in RBP36

he is ranked highly in PER though (20.3)