nailed to the bore. -- OBAMA’S NEW EXECUTIVE ORDERS JANUARY 16TH, 2013 So Obama released his Executive Orders to Prevent Maniacs From Being Maniacs today. I’ve taken the time to translate the summaries into plain English below: 1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system. Tell the government to follow the law. 2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system. Tell the regulators to stop the stupid and useless regulations. 3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system. Pay the states back for the unfunded mandates that the Feds keeps making. 4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks. Tell the Attorney General to do his job. 5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun. Start another unfunded mandate. (See #3.) 6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers. Tell FDLs how to do something no one is ever going to bother to do. 7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign. Do the same thing the NRA already does, only half as well at twice the cost. 8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission). Do what Underwriters Laboratories already does, only half as well at twice the cost. 9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations. Tell the Feds to do their jobs. 10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement. Tell the DOJ to do its job. 11. Nominate an ATF director. Tell myself to do my job. 12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations. Spend more money. 13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime. Tell everyone to do their goddamned jobs. 14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence. Tell the doctors to figure out why it isn’t the feds’ fault that they aren’t doing their jobs. 15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies. Figure out a way to push “smart guns” that don’t exist and wouldn’t be useful as guns if they did. 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes. Tell everyone that Obamacare doesn’t actually mean what it says. 17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities. Tell everyone that, seriously, Obamacare doesn’t actually mean that. We had to pass it to find out what was in it, after all. 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers. Tell everyone that I’ve been a partisan hack for the last month every time I said the NRA was crazy to want to post more cops in schools. 19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education. Do the same thing that every police agency in the country has already done, only half as well and at ten times the cost. 20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover. Tell doctors what they already know. 21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges. Tell people what the parts of Obamacare that don’t say anything say. 22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations. Tell HHS to do their job. 23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health. Hand the rest of the job of telling everyone to do their jobs off to someone else so it is no longer my job. http://phelps.donotremove.net/2013/01/obamas-new-executive-orders/
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That actually was a useful summary. Some things sound like they'd have a pretty marginal impact, but I think Obama is right that you're not going to do one magical thing to make gun violence go away; you need an accumulation of little things to whittle down gun violence.
violent crimes are way down in the US. these little things aren't needed to 'whittle down' gun violence.
Maybe - but it's certainly demonstrated that bigger things do reduce gun injuries: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ix-facts-about-guns-violence-and-gun-control/ 5. States with stricter gun control laws have fewer deaths from gun-related violence. Last year, economist Richard Florida dove deep into the correlations between gun deaths and other kinds of social indicators. Some of what he found was, perhaps, unexpected: Higher populations, more stress, more immigrants, and more mental illness were not correlated with more deaths from gun violence. But one thing he found was, perhaps, perfectly predictable: States with tighter gun control laws appear to have fewer gun-related deaths. The disclaimer here is that correlation is not causation. But correlations can be suggestive: “The map overlays the map of firearm deaths above with gun control restrictions by state,” explains Florida. “It highlights states which have one of three gun control restrictions in place – assault weapons’ bans, trigger locks, or safe storage requirements. Firearm deaths are significantly lower in states with stricter gun control legislation. Though the sample sizes are small, we find substantial negative correlations between firearm deaths and states that ban assault weapons (-.45), require trigger locks (-.42), and mandate safe storage requirements for guns (-.48).”
I'm not cool with 15 deaths per thousand, I am cool with the already existing downward trend. The contention by myself and others is that an individual has a right to protect themselves with a firearm. Do you have the numbers of whether more victims where defenseless in these states?
So you figure that we should be down to 0 deaths per thousand by 2025 or so? By 2050, guns will actually be bringing people back to life!
Unless we don't have murders anymore, any reasonable thing we could do to get an incremental benefit in the murder rate would be desireable. You're saying where we're at now is 'good enough,' that we're already reducing the murder rate, so we don't need to do more to get it even lower. Unless and until there is no murder, we should always seek ways to improve. In other words, your graph is not relevant. The correct party line for you would have been 'these 23 items on Obama's list won't do anything at all to reduce gun violence.' I think you took a rhetorical misstep in implicitly allowing that these things would help and then just saying we don't really want the extra help. If these things will help and they're reasonable to execute upon (since most of them is basically telling people to do the jobs they are already supposed to do, I think they are reasonable and certainly don't pose the Second Amendment any threat), then we should do them and save a couple of lives.
Ok now show us the statistics from the states that involve deaths involving other weapons besides guns. I can go in my work shop right now and build a working weapon that can fire 9mm ammo. Yay for Gun Restrictions!
I'm wrong to say that you think the current rate is good enough. So little things to whittle the rate down further would be needed? You can understand my confusion here, can't you?
It is interesting, the graph correlates with abortion rights. Glad to know that you are a supporter of Roe v. Wade.
'little things' aren't needed. the rate is dropping just fine. I think what you mean to ask me is 'am i content with the rate of change' not the 'rate'. Yes I am .
