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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Mavericks 1/16/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. holly1985

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    This is so ture. In this McHale system, there's no real PG. Everyone is a pg, trying to dribble and create something.
     
  2. glacier921

    glacier921 Rookie

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    It was a good pass. Parsons dropped the ball. It was in his midsection of his body, he should have caught the ball.
     
  3. nadman89

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    blazers loss so its all good
     
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    He didn't "choke". He just can't hit FT's recently for some reason.
     
  5. munsteur

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    Hey man. No disrespect here. All I see is some post-game rational debate on what's best for the team. As for the LOF situation you are talking about, I think most of these so called "LOF", which I consider myself to be one, followed Lin's game closely back in NY. I think a rational "LOF" only wants to offer some perspective that some long-time Houston fans are not aware of about how Lin plays.
     
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    he also retwisted his bum ankle before the fts. i'm thinking he should prolly rest up for the next game to preserve his ankle. pbev got this....
     
  7. mfastx

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    What's your source on this? I think he'd love that.

    There's a lot of pressure associated with a big contract and a starting role. Critics as well may have gotten to him. Also the poor play at the beggining of the season. Numerous things may have gotten to him.

    I see it man I don't think we disagree as much as you think. It's a mentality. His shot was better last year because he was more confident. It's a vicious cycle and he has to break out of it.

    Well, that's an interesting perspective but he has shown enough flashes this season to lead me to believe that he can play better more consistently. The way he was playing in the 4th quarter tonight was more aggressive and more confident, and I think he can do that more often. He's looked like a completely different player out ther at different points of the game.
     
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    It's funny that people here are having such unreasic expectations. I am so sick of people saying we need to replace Lin / MM / Asik when they have an average game. Or because they are not as good as RONDO in playmaking? So pretty much every team has to fire their PG. just name your expectations and the lets talk.
     
  9. Spooner

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    There are some very large contradictions in your post. Compare Usg% between the two players. You've already stated that Harden has the ball in his hands much, much more. Then you go on to compare TO's between the two negating the fact that the offense runs through Harden. You do realize Jeremy turns the ball over way more per possession than Harden and you unintentionally proved this. What makes you think Jeremy Lin can consistently put up numbers like Harden (who is doing something very rare, mind you) given he has more touches? The fact of the matter is, James Harden has a much higher field goal percentage even though he takes way shots. It isn't Rocket science who the Rocket's best scorer is. If anything, the more shots one takes, the further his percentage seems to drop relative to those shots. You do realize last year that Harden had the highest shooting % among guards in the NBA last year with less opportunities dont you? Case and point. If you think Jeremy should be getting more touches than Harden, please explain to me why Harden is still more efficient with way more shots. I mean Jeremy is barely shooting .420 on 10 shots per game. Please. Tyreke Evans was more efficient as a scorer.
    I'm not biased and I dont hate Jeremy Lin. Im just a sensible person. There is no debate between Harden and Lin. Its just silly.
     
  10. nadman89

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    guys can we all stop being negative you guys seem to forget james hardens clutchness in minny singlehandedly won us that games hes been clutch in many games , our schedule is just horrible were a young team and lets be honest lookin at our january schedule you know wed lose what we lost maybe not the NOLA game but the rest were legitimate losses its better to lose now than lose them @ the end of the year (like last year , choke city) be patient things will only get better we need to hover around 500. till march where we have a 7 game homestand and 9/10 @ home , maybe add some small good pieces @ the trade deadline , be optimistic boys and gals!
     
  11. raskol

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    I disagree. He split the trap plenty last year. Also, although a shot would mean a world of a difference, Lin in a pnr or coming off a screen is a solid second option on this team.
     
  12. Roboman

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    It's probably cause we been spoiled by the winning streaks, thus elevating the expectations we have of this young team. And at the same time, forgetting that we are the youngest and most inexperienced team.
     
  13. Luca

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    On a side note, Hubie Brown & Mike Breen are much better commentators than Bill & Clyde imo.
     
  14. roxxy

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    His shot was better last year because he could actually shoot. Lins range doesn't extend beyond a long 2. He did something to his form in an attempt to become more consistent as a shooter & now it is jacked up. We don't agree you keep talking about confidence I disagree. It isn't confidence it is just bad form. If he had better form which resulted in a better shot he would have all the confidence in the world.

    He needs to be a better shooter he won't be consistent on a daily basis until he is a better shooter. This is just basketball sense. Even Greg Popovich & Tony Parker said this. I don't understand how you could think otherwise.
     
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    Listening to hubie brown's analysis is like poetry to every fan's ears , the knicks are lucky they have breen and walt frazier every game!
     
  16. torocan

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    Two x 38 point games. In his first 86 games. In his first 46 starts. That's a bit more than once per season of games.

    And Kyle Lowry only had two 30+ point games in his first 3 seasons (32 points vs Phoenix and 36 points vs the 76ers). He played 92 games in his first 2 seasons... his 36 point game was his 144th NBA game, his 32 point game was his 153rd game. Lowry has actually never had a 38+ point game.

    38 points is a LOT more than 30 points. When you start getting into 20+ points teams really try to clamp down so it's considerably harder to get to 38 than 30, or 30 than 20.

    I think you're underestimating how hard it is to put anywhere near 40 points on ANY team, let alone the Spurs.
     
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    Disagree. His shot didn't magically come back today and he still did what he did. It was the high pnrs to open up his game and confidence that did it. More pnrs and screens set for him, a longer leash, more freedome to put in work and I believe he will find confidence and his shot. His shot's not gonna magically come back, I'm sure he's making a grip in practice. He's got to find his mojo from within if the coaches aren't putting him in place to do it. He's getting paid good money to. He's too much of a company man imo. He should just try to go ham when Harden is off and keep demanding those screens every play down until his teammates get used to it and learn to trust it. I'm just not feeling you on that roxxy.
     
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    Or Jon Berry, for that matter.
     
  19. Roboman

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    Well Hubie and Mike started liking him during Jeremy's Linsanity stunt, and still hold him in a positive regard I guess. I've always like Mike Breen compared to some of the other commentators, he seems way less biased.
     
  20. mfastx

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    His bad shot isn't preventing him from having great stretches though, he can still be effective even if his shot isn't falling.

    I think otherwise because I've seen him play great with my own two eyes a few times this season. I've seen him play with confidence that you say is impossible to for him to play with.
     

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