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Placing blame where it is due - Wade Phillips

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. Baseballa

    Baseballa Member

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    Not sure what you are getting at.

    The whole point of my post is that you need an elite QB to win a Super Bowl. You just reinforced that...?

    The Texans undoubtedly have a stronger supporting cast than, say, the Colts. But that game is now a toss-up because they have the superior QB.

    There is no other position in all of professional sports that is as important as QB, and right now we have a "pretty good" one.
     
  2. ima_drummer2k

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    If you're saying both sides of the ball sucked on wheels, then on that we can agree.
     
  3. primtim24

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    I'm not trying to be a huge Schaub supporter here, but please tell me how you can turn the ball over once and it ends up turning into a FG, give up 38 points, and this be the offense's fault?

    At the end of a season if a team gives up 41 points per game, when someone says man their defense sucked, you must be that one guy who says, "not necessarily, how was their offense?"
     
  4. Precision340

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    not a jab at you.. me and my friends were talking about that during the game.. i was still hopeful for a comeback and my friend says "yeah right, if we had tom brady!!".. and that's when the comment about the all time quarterback with brady came up
     
  5. rmoreno

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    Both sides had a hand in the loss, but you can only maintain an offense like NE at bay for so long. The defense gave the offense so many opportunities to take a huge lead in the first half and still kept the game in striking distance. Against a team like NE you have to come out fighting, and with that opening kickoff return I seriously thought the texans were going to do that. But I was brought back down to earth when we settled for a FG. I mean 2 red zone opportunities and a possession when we are in FG range and we only end up with 3 points!!!!!!!! That's demoralizing, especially since everyone had established that the main key to victory was TD's not FG's!!!!!!!!!!

    Defense let up in 2nd half, but I still believe our offense was the key factor to our loss. I don't know if the outcome would have changed, but the Texans have played better this year once they've establish a solid lead (no not 3-0) and unfortunately they were unable to do that...
     
  6. Bublanski

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    4-15 on 3rd down for the offense.

    the same offense that has 6 pro bowl players.

    if you cant convert on 3rd down and keep giving brady chances to score, chances are he's gonna score.

    we all know what the problem is.

    Kubiak is average as head coach and matt schaub is average at qb.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Nah, Schaub is above average. Christian Ponder is average.

    Kubiak is TBD.
     
  8. Bublanski

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    kubiak tbd?

    lol.

    he's the second biggest problem on the texans.
     
  9. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    Bingo. The rigidity of the play-calling is a problem on both ends. They seem to stick with the called play every time, even when it's clear before the snap that it isn't going to work.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Weird that we got to the 2nd round again with a problematic head coach.
     
  11. bigballerj

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    The Texas are great at beating teams that are bad/mediocre. Problem is they get blown out against teams that are very good/great.

    I honestly think that the wheels started to come off the defense the second that Cushing was out for the season.
     
  12. primtim24

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    How? Right after that we blew Baltimore out of the water?
     
  13. meh

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    I just think we're devoid in talent. And that last year's defensive surge was more a product of Wade's schemes than talent. When teams adjusted this year, we simply can't match up. Reed/Barwin vs opposing tackles? Bad for us. LBs vs opponent TEs? Bad for us. Interior line vs opposing running game? Thank god we have JJ Watt. Secondary vs opposing receivers? Bad ever since the injuries.

    One could say that game was very lucky, because Watt deflected 2 passes for INTs. One for a pick 6 IIRC. Watt has since stopped getting so many deflections, and Texans stopped getting TOs. Points then dropped precipitously.

    The circumstances that created the beatdown was not replicable. And honestly, hasn't been replicated since that game. Not even against a bunch of crappy team.
     
  14. Naija Texan

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    Naw, the fact is when both offensive and defensive sides of the ball are doing well, the Texans are a top flight team as seen when we beat the Broncos, Bears and Ravens wins. The problem has been we haven't seen that team for a while. The offense hasn't been working right since the overtime win on Thanksgiving and the defense all year has been great at protecting leads and slowing teams down in the first half with bend don't break. But come the second half if the team isn't close the defense starts to break mistakes pile up and we get our blow out loses.

    The team needs balance, personally I still give the offense the lion's share of the blame but by no means is our defense perfect with our weaken LB group during the second half of the year.
     
  15. Rip Van Rocket

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    The defense really went down when the injuries started happening. We just didn't have much quality behind the starters. I don't have a problem with Wade as the coach, I just want to add talent to the roster. Going forward, I wish we didn't have so much money tied up in Schaub and Foster.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    it feeds of each other
    Offense cannot get a lead so defense cannot pin their ears back and go after the QB
    The defense cannot hold water so the offense is always playing from behind

    Rocket River
     
  17. edwardc

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    TOP mean nothing when all your getting are FG's. Yeah the ILB coverage was poor be remember Cushing wasn't in the game and he the best cover LB on the team.
     
  18. DonkeyMagic

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    I know. And TOP means nothing when the other team scores TDs in 2 minutes. I was showing that the "our defense was too tired" excuse was not valid because our defense wasn't out there for an excessive amount of time
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    It absolutely is.

    The TOP in the meaningful parts of the game was NOT won by the Texans.

    The Patriots are not a ball control team, so edging them out by a couple minutes in TOP is NOT a victory. Especially when the Texans *are* a ball control team.

    You need to look more critically at the first 47 minutes of the game, and less at the last 13 minutes, when the game was virtually out of reach.

    The offense did not hold up its end of the bargain, and the defense subsequently collapsed, just like has happened in almost *all* of our other losses this year.
     
  20. conundrum

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    Texans were slammed on ESPNs front page article today. Here is an excerpt pointing at issues on the D.

    Feel free to check out the rest of the article, it will most likely just piss you...

    You cannot blame everything on Matt or the D, we were just unprepared all around.

    http://espn.go.com/espn/playbook/story/_/id/8843881/college-zone-read-tactics-thriving-nfl-exposing-nfl-tactics
     

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